Knottekistje, maker? English crest?

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Vantlicht
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Knottekistje, maker? English crest?

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This knottekistje was given to a girl if I guy want to marrie her. With some coins inside. Typical for Friesland.
This item is marked but it looks like the marks have been deliberately made vague. The bird is really nice on the backside. Could this be an english crest?
And why are the marks so bad? Anybody recognize this?

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It is perhaps British family crest, the family coat of arms resembles a baby in wicker basket with a deterrent eagle on top. I've never seen it before . It appears that the marks have been purposely erased.
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The partly erased marks are pseudo marks.

Pseudo town mark Rotterdam of 1771, See K.A Citroen, Valse Zilvermerken in Nederland #600-serie aa
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Pseudo maker's mark of Louis de Haan, 1745, Rotterdam. See K.A Citroen, Valse Zilvermerken in Nederland #216-serie aa
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Pseudo Rotterdam Standard mark of 1771. See K.A Citroen, Valse Zilvermerken in Nederland #623-serie aa

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These pseudo marks were used by Frisian silversmith Jan Schijfsma, registered in Sneek and Woudsend, 1844-1898 maker’s mark JS 160

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Pseudo marks left to right; pseudo town mark of Rotterdam(upside down)# 600, pseudo Rotterdam maker’s mark LH crescent star crown for Louis de Haan, active 1742-1781(#216), applicable maker’s mark of Jan Schijfsma JS 160 (turned right), pseudo Lion Rampant, province of Holland 1st standard mark(#623), pseudo Rotterdam year letter N for 1771(#242)


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Many thanks. Really nice work. This one was so difficult. Compliments.
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The Stanley Family Crest
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BLAZON On A Chapeau Gu., Turned Up Erm., A Cradle Or, Containing A Child Swaddled Of The First, Thereon An Eagle Preying.
S​ource Fairbairn's Book of Crests, 1905 ed.


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