Can anyone help identify silver sugar bowl 1895

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Can anyone help identify silver sugar bowl 1895

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Hello everyone!
Can anyone help identify and provide any information? Any information will be helpful.
This may be made in Poland or Russia

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Re: Can anyone help identify silver sugar bowl 1895

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Hello!
Indeed, the stamps indicate that the product was made in Warsaw (Frazhe company?). I have a double feeling. On the one hand, everything is correct, but on the other there are several questions. What initials do you see? May be, JF? Can you take more detailed photos? It is advisable to see sharper photos of the brands and the reverse side opposite the impact of the brands.
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Thank you for your replay. Here are more detailed photo. Is this one ok?
Regarding initials I think those are J.F or H.F

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Thanks! All questions disappeared). There are the initials JF (there was a re-hit). I can assume that this is Frager's workshop, but that's just a guess. Perhaps someone knows more precisely.
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Yes Warzaw, Poland. The maker J.F. is as Mart already stated Jozef Fraget, active 1895-1918. The assayer O.C. is Osip Sosnkovskij in W. 1862-1896. Anyway, he also used the following punches IS, IC (Ios, Józef Stanislavovitch Sos...) around 1852~1862. (Note! Differing opinions for the working periods occur).
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Qrt.S ...Jozef Fraget, active 1895-1918....[/quote wrote: Is it not clear what this period of time means?
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??????? The anticipated "known" period he used his punch as an approved goldsmith! Moreover, I also wrote "Differing opinions..." Nothing is carved in stone regarding goldsmiths and their marks etc., especially not Polish goldsmiths' history.

What is your suggestion/correction? Do you have more specific info to present? Please do it!
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The brands of the Fraget company on silver products can be seen starting (at least) from 1877.
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Thank you. Some more information. Jòzef Fraget was born 25.4.1797 and died 16.7.1867. His successor was his son Julian Mikolaj Fraget born 2.6.1841 dead 1906. The above stated means that the punch J.F. in this case (1895) is most likely Julian Fraget but not Jòzef. Anyway, the Fraget company, founded 1844, mainly made plated objects. As from 1884 (1877???) it also produced sterling silver.
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Thank you so much for your help! You are the best!!!

I know it weighs about 550 grams.

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