Russian Gun powder flask ?

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Anneli111
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Russian Gun powder flask ?

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HI.
My husband once got as a gift from a relative a silver item that we beleive is an Russian Gun powder falsk (I guess Russian from the letter). The silver markings looks similar to the ones you have on this site for Russia. I was wondering if anyone could help us with some information on this item, e.g. is it really Russain, how old is it, and is our guess for Gun powder flask correct? We really like this one and it is a pity we know absolutley nothing about it. So anything you could tell us would be really appreichiated. The bottom can be unscrewed, and the same marking can be found also here, but with a more "blurry" City mark.

Unfortunately the silver mark is not as clear in the picture. Looking at the list of markings to me it looks similar to the City Mark for St. Petersburg with two anchors, or Misk. There are three distinc "legs" at the bottom of the mark, and on top something like a very small V seem to be sticking out on top... Did not find any JAL for silversmiths, so probably a lesser known one.

I think the phote shows the text upside down. Tried to decode the letters but too many letter I could not figure out what to map to. Must be an older Russian alaphabet, or maybe it is not Russian...

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Qrt.S
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Re: Russian Gun powder flask ?

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Allow me to smile...It is not at all what you think it is. Not even close.

The text is church Slavonic i.e. old Russian and it took a while before I managed to understand it. It is up side down and states that "God protects and feeds his children". It is a nursing bottle/feeder for small children. I think I don't have explain how it works :-))))

Moreover, it is made in St Petersburg Russia 1882-1898 by JAL. Unfortunately he is unknown to name. That's about all to tell.
Anneli111
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This reply gave me such a good laugh. It made my day. I am glad you found it funny too.

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer this, and giving us some idea of what it actually is, and how old it is.
It is really, really appreachiated.
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You are so welcome. I was smiling because I tried to imagine how you would have loaded a rifle with gun powder with this "thing" and what might have happened then? However, I must admit that there are some similarities both in size and outlook, but still...:-)))
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Hi Anneli 111 -

now comes the disappointment:

this "instrument" is a socalled "baby-feeding-funnel" (acc. to the sellers)as well as the various "Jewish circumcision-knives" offered by phantasyful fakers. Total nonsense and 100% fake in every respect. They often use the maker JAL, it is Latin and easy to fake.
A good lough is the best you get from this "typical Russian object"!

Regards
Zolotnik
Anneli111
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Re: Russian Gun powder flask ?

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Never mind. That does not matter. We are not collectors or looking to auction it off anywhere.
A good laugh is enough for me.

It is still fun to keep, but thank you for letting us know not to consider it a "family heirloom".... :-)
It will make me smile for a long time every time I pass the shelf it is standing on...

Many thanks to both of you.
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