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Postby dognose » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:11 pm

Joseph Angel (Grimwade 1769,1772) as at March 1820
Richard James Beckley (Grimwade 2351)
John Prickett

This is an update on a previous post.
In April 1820 Beckley and Prickett appeared at seperate trials at the Old Bailey, both accused of theft from their Master, Joseph Angel. They were both found guilty and sentenced to Transportation for seven years.
There is doubt, especially with Beckley, that this sentence was carried out.
At the time of the trial, Beckley was 22 years old and Prickett, 24 years old. Beckley entered into apprenticeship with Angel on 7th November 1810 and continued as a journeyman with his Freedom unrecorded, until his arrest in March 1820. However he entered his first mark alone, as a Plateworker on 18th February 1825.
It is also interesting to note, that at the time Beckley started his apprenticeship, Joseph Angel had yet to enter his first mark, which he did not do until 7th October 1811, presumably his output was entirely for others since he gained his Freedom in 1804.

John Prickett had worked as a journeyman to Joseph Angel for 18 months at the time of his arrest, he had previously been in the employ of a silversmith called Socket, of Camberwell, to whom he had served his apprenticeship, and upon his Freedom became journeyman to, in April 1818. His employment had ceased following the death of Socket shortly after this date.

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Postby dognose » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:33 am

Paul de Lamerie (Grimwade 1892, 2203-4) as at February 1748*
Isaac Giles (Clerk)

At a trial at the Old Bailey, Isaac Giles, who appeared as a witness, stated that he had been the bookmaker to Paul de Lamerie for twenty years.

Paul de Lamerie (Grimwade 1892, 2203-4) as at May 1750**
Frederick Knopfell (Journeyman)
Samuel Collins (Journeyman)

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*(Source Old Bailey Court Records)
**(Source A G Grimwade, London Goldsmiths 1697-1837)

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Postby dognose » Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:31 am

Thomas Dicks (Grimwade 2731,2738) as at c.1798-9
William Harman
James Hadfield*

*James Hadfield or Hatfield (b.1771-2 d.23 January 1841) attempted to assassinate George III in 1800 but was acquitted of attempted murder by reason of insanity.


646. Proceedings on the Trial of James Hadfield, at the Bar of the Court of King's Bench, for High Treason, June 26 : 40 George III. A. D. 1800.

Court Of King's Bench June 16th 1800

Extact from the transcript of the trial.

William Harman sworn. Examined by Mr. Law.

What art you ? A silver-spoon maker.
Are you journeyman to Mr. Dicks? Yes.
How long have you known the prisoner at the bar? I have known him seven years.
Did the prisoner at the bar call upon you at any lime on Thursday the 15th of May ? Yes, about two o'clock.
At what place did he call upon you? At Mr. Dicks's shop, in Greenhill's Rents, near Smithfield.
Did he at that time show you any thing ? He showed me a pistol ; he said be had been buying a pair.
Did you ask him any question, upon his telling you he had bought those pistols ? I asked him what he bought them for ? He said he bought them for his young master, and gave eight shillings for them ; that he meant to charge his young master twelve shillings, after he had cleaned them up, and then be should get four shillings by them.
Did he leave either of his pistols with you or at the place where he was ? Yes, he left one.
Did he give any reason for leaving that one pistol with you ? He said, if he took it home, his wife would be frightened.
At the time when he called upon you, produced this pistol, and had this conversation with you about leaving the pistol for fear his wife should be frightened, did he appear to you to be collected, and to understand what he was about? Yes.
Was his appearance the appearance he usually bore, or was there any thing different from his usual manner on that occasion ? No, he seemed as well as ever he did in his life.

Thomas Dicks sworn. Examined by Mr.Garrow.

I believe you carry on the business of a silver spoon-maker? Yes.
Was the young man who has just left the Court, William Harman, a journeyman of your's? Yes.
Do you know the Prisoner at the bar, James Hadfield? Yes.
Did he, at any time, work for you as a journeyman in your business? About a year and a half ago.
How long did he work for you? About three weeks.
At one time ? Yes.
Did he execute his business like other journeymen in the same trade? Yes.
Have you, since he ceased to work for you, occasionally seen him upon visits to his shop-mates, and upon other occasions? I have met him in the streets several times.
Do you remember seeing him at your house On Thursday the 15th of May last? Yes.
About what time of the day? Somewhere about two, or after two o'clock, in the afternoon.
Whom did you see him in company with, and what was his business there? He called to see Harman.
Did you see anything in the possession of the prisoner at that time? Yes; when I shoved the shop door open, I saw him sitting on a stool in the shop; he said to me, " How do you do, master?" and he said he had bought a bargain; that he had given eight shillings for a pair of pistols. He asked me what I thought they were worth? I said, I did not think they were worth four. I went out of the shop then, and went down stairs, and he went out to get some beer, to treat the young men with some beer ; he laid the pistol down, and then went away.
Lord Kenyan. One of the pistols? He had only one.
Mr. Garrow. He had been some time with Harman before you went in ? Yes ; the pistol lay there ; I told him to take the pistol with him ; he said, " No, I shall not go to work this afternoon ; I shall go home and clean myself." I told him to take the pistol with him; he said he should frighten his wife with the pistol if he took it, and he would leave it till he came back again ; he called again for it, put it into his pocket, and took it away, and I saw no more of him.
How long was he absent? About twenty minutes; time enough to clean himself.
Had he cleaned himself before he returned last? Yes; he was clean when he came and fetched his pistol away.
He was in his working dress when you saw him first ? Yes.
He went away, and returned in twenty minutes clean, and then took away the pistol? Yes.
During the whole of the time that you saw him upon that Thursday the 15th of May, from his manner, from anything that he said, from anything you gathered in his conversation, did you observe anything extraordinary in his manner, or was it the manner of a sane man, knowing perfectly what he was doing ? He seemed more solider than ever I saw him before; I thought he seemed duller, not so cheerful in spirits ; that was all the notice I took of him.
Was there anything disjointed in his conversation, anything out of its place? No.
Any thing that gave you an idea that there was any thing the matter with his head ? No, not that gave me any idea of that, he seemed lower in spirits I thought than I had usually seen him before.
Cast your eye upon that pistol ; was it a pistol of that sort? I think this was the pistol.
A Juryman. Did you see only one pistol, or a pair ? Only one.
Mr. Garrow. He produced only one to Harman, but mentioned two.

Source: A Complete Collection of State Trials and Proceedings for High Treason and Other Crimes and Misdemeanors from the Earliest Period to the Year 1783, with Notes and Other Illustrations
By Thomas Bayly Howell
Compiled by Thomas Bayly Howell
Published by Longman, Hurst, Rees, Orme and Brown, 1820
Item notes: v. 27 (1798-1800)

London Goldsmiths-1697-1837-Their Marks & Lives.--Arthur G. Grimwade



For the full transcript of the trial go to:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=P0MC ... s+hadfield

For further information go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hadfield

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Postby dognose » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:31 am

Solomon Hougham (Grimwade 2536, 2548) as at May 1800
James Hadfield

See above post.

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Postby dognose » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:48 am

Samuel Goodbehere* & Edward Wigan (Grimwade 2516) c.1788
..........Parker (Foreman?)
Thomas Preston (Errand Boy)

Source: The Life and Opinions of Thomas Preston.
Published by the Author, 1817.


*In every period reference I've found, and there are many of them due to the fame of the man, he was among many things, the Sheriff of London, that is second only to the Lord Mayor, the spelling is always Goodbehere and not Godbehere.

Link to a billhead of Goodbehere, Wigan & Co.:
http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/s ... _id=400284

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Postby dognose » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:51 am

George Turner (Jackson p.305) Exeter as at July 1818
Giles Tozer (position unknown)

Giles Tozer died in early August 1818. His death was a result of his attempt to rescue three men who had been overcome by fumes during the construction of a sewer in Exeter.

Source: The Annual Register.
Edited by Edmund Burke, 1819.


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Postby dognose » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:29 pm

William Eley (II) (Grimwade 3102, 3109, 3110, 3113) as at c.1824
John Cutmore* (Superintendent of Works),(Grimwade 1796)
James Littler Barritt** (Die Sinker)
James Price*** (Position Unknown)

*John Cutmore was Superintendent of William Eley's works until 1829 when in appears he went into partnership with Thomas Cutmore and took over William Eley's premises at 3, Lovell's Court. Following this enterprise he was to become Superintendent at the manufactory of Bateman & Ball, a position he held for fourteen years.

** James Littler Barritt served an apprenticeship with Rundell, Bridge & Rundell. He was later to become a partner of William Eley(II) in a business embossing leather bookcovers. (See: viewtopic.php?t=18959).

*** James Price had been a servant to the Eleys for most of his life and may have performed many roles. He was employed first by William Eley (I), and then William Eley (II). In 1841 he told the inquest into the death of William Eley (II) that he had worked for William (II) and his father for a period of thirty-four years. In the 1851 Census, William Thomas Eley (Son of Wiliam Eley (II)) is recorded as living at 38, Broad Street, where he had a seventy-four year old servant named James Price.

Source:
Eley Cartridges, A History of the Silversmiths And Ammunition Manufacturers by C.W. Harding.

Nineteenth Century Silver by John Culme.

London Goldsmiths 1697-1837 Their Marks & Lives by Arthur G. Grimwade.


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Postby dognose » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:38 pm

William Robert Smily as at July 1852
Thomas Smily (Clerk)
William Booth
Robert Crisp (Wedding Ring Keeper Maker)

William Robert Smily died in 1858 aged 34, upon his death the business was taken over by his brother Thomas Smily.

Source: Old Bailey Court Records

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Postby dognose » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:44 pm

Samuel Hayne & Dudley Cater (Grimwade 2546) as at October 1838
Lewis Theophilus Bell
Joseph West

Source: Old Bailey Court Records

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Postby dognose » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:50 am

John Baynes (Newcastle) as at August 1599
Thomas Royd (Apprentice)

John Baynes (Newcastle) as at February 1600
John Nicholson (Apprentice)

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Postby dognose » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:44 pm

The Apprentices’ of Francis Batty II of Newcastle

Francis Batty II inherited his father’s silversmithing business upon his death in 1706. His father, Francis Batty I was one of the leading silversmiths of his time in Newcastle and was the Assay Master for the Newcastle Company of Goldsmiths for the period 1702-1706. Francis Batty II continued the family reputation and was also one of the leading lights of the Newcastle Assay Office. Francis Batty II died in 1728.

Below is a list of the known apprentices of Francis Batty II.

Robert Makepeace. Son of Thomas Makepeace of Newcastle. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 2nd February 1707. Robert Makepeace was later to enter into a short partnership with his former master during the years 1719-1720. Robert Makepeace died in 1755.

John Carnaby. Son of William Carnaby of Newcastle. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 24th June 1709. He continued his employment with Batty as a journeyman after completing his apprenticeship. In 1718 he went into business on his own account and in 1726 became an Inn-keeper. He died in 1733.

Henry Martin. Son of Mark Martin of Newcastle. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 25th March 1710.

Michael Jenkins. Son of Henry Jenkins. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 1st September 1714.

George Bulman. Son of George Bulman. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 25th February 1717. He also continued his employment as a journeyman until Batty’s demise in 1728. As from 1728 he went into business for himself. He died in 1743. His death was caused by drowning, at the time George Bulman was in a great deal of debt. Following his death, his wife was incarcerated in Newgate Prison and in 1745 while still in Newgate the Newcastle Company of Goldsmiths made a donation of half a guinea to her to ease her sufferings.

Isaac Cookson. Son of William Cookson of Penrith. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 1st October 1720. Following the completion of his apprenticeship, Isaac Cookson went to London to improve his skills. On hearing of his old masters death, he returned to Newcastle and purchased Francis Batty’s shop, tools and half the stock. He built up a flourishing business and became the most famous Newcastle silversmith of his time. He died in 1754.

George Hetherington. Son of Nicholas Hetherington, late of Brampton in Gilsland, County of Cumberland. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 30th October 1723. Francis Batty died during the period of George Hetherington’s apprenticeship and he elected to finish his term under the guidance of George Bulman who had been journeyman to Batty.


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Postby dognose » Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:04 pm

The Journeymen of Francis Batty II of Newcastle

John Carnaby Known to have been working 1716-1718.

James Richards Known to have been working November 1718.

John Sharpling Known to have been working August 1719.

Thomas Prow Known to have been working November 1722.

George Bulman Known to have been working 1724-1728.

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Postby dognose » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:19 pm

The Apprentices of Isaac Cookson of Newcastle

Isaac Cookson not only took over the business of Francis Batty II, but also his position as Warden of the Newcastle Assay Office following the death of his former master in 1728.

Below is a list of known apprentices of Isaac Cookson.

Edward French Son of William French of Newburn. Edward French had been indentured to Jonathan French for a period of seven years as from 18th April 1727. Following the death of Jonathan French in 1733, William French elected to serve the remainder of his term under Isaac Cookson.

Thomas Stoddart Son of John Stoddart of Newcastle. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 1st September 1728. Following the completion of his apprenticeship in 1735, Thomas Stoddart went into business on his own account. He died in 1763.

John Langlands Son of Reignold Langlands of Newcastle. Term of Indenture: Ten years as from 2nd October 1731. John Langlands worked for Isaac Cookson for twenty-three years and took over the business, along with another former apprentice and journeyman of Cookson, John Goodrick, after the death of Cookson in 1754. John Langlands was to go on to be the most famous of the Newcastle silversmiths.

Stephen Buckle Son of Joseph Buckle of York. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 27th April 1732. Stephen Buckle's father, Joseph was a goldsmith at York and following the closure of the York Assay Office in 1716, sent his manufactures to Newcastle for Assay. Following the completion of his apprenticeship, Stephen Buckle returned to York to work with his father. Stephen Buckle retired in 1774, his business was taken over by the York goldsmith Richard Clark.

Martin Hixon Son of John Hixon of Sedgefield. Term of Indenture: Seven years as of 20th March 1742.

John Goodrick Son of Francis Goodrick of Clifton, in the North Riding of the County of York. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 1st April 1743. John Goodrick became the first partner of John Langlands when they took over the business of Isaac Cookson. He died in 1757.

John Bell Son of Christopher Bell. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 1st August 1747.

William George Chalmers Son of the Rev. Mr. Chalmers of Kirkhaugh. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 1st July 1751.

James Robinson Son of John Robinson of Watermelock. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 1st November 1752.

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Postby dognose » Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:08 pm

The Journeymen of Isaac Cookson of Newcastle

Peter Johnson Known to be working February 1728

Charles Stoddart* Known to be working November 1728

John Goresuch Known to be working November 1730

.........Gillison/Gilson** Known to be working May 1740

Thomas Blacket*** Known to be working May 1740

John Langlands Known to be working May 1742

Martin Hixon Known to be working May 1750

* Probably the brother of Thomas Stoddart.
** Possibly Robert Gillson of Sunderland.
*** Thomas Blacket became Foreman at John Langlands

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Postby dognose » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:34 am

The Apprentices of Jonathan French of Newcastle

Jonathan French was a Newcastle silversmith who served his apprenticeship under Robert Shrive. Following the death of the Newcastle Assaymaster Francis Batty (1) he was sent to London to learn the art of assaying by the Newcastle Company of Goldsmiths and was officially appointed Assaymaster on 13th September 1707.

Jonathan French seems to have had an up and down relationship with the Newcastle Assay Office, he served as Warden on several occasions, but was also in dispute with them on others. On the 18th December 1718, he along with James Kirkup, were fined by the Wardens for “Misbehaueing themselves and giving each other unbrotherly words”, and on the 3rd May 1721 he was fined again for “For unbrotherly words and giving a brother a lye”. He was also heavily fined on the 16th November 1721 for underhand dealings with John Hewitt; “to the great prejudice of this company”.
French must have resigned as Assaymaster sometime in 1712, for at the meeting on the 23rd September 1712, Thomas Hewitson was sworn in as Assaymaster. This must have been a very disappointing outcome for the Company as they had invested heavily in the training of French, the bill for the trip to London came to £14-5s-7d and French was also paid 43 shillings for his trouble, although the knowledge appears to have been passed on, for at a meeting on the 28th November 1717, Mark Grey Nicholson was appointed Assaymaster and was to be instructed in the art by Jonathan French, so presumably Hewitson was taught by French as well.

Jonathan French died in early 1733, while in office as Warden to the Company of Goldsmiths of Newcastle.

Below is a list of the known apprentices of Jonathan French.

John French. Son of Joshua French, late of Leamington. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 8th May 1717. He continued with Jonathan French as a journeyman.

William Whitfield. Son of John Whitfield. Term of Indenture: Seven Years as from 12th September 1713. William Whitfield was indentured to John Younghusband, but following the death of his master, elected to serve the rest of his term with Jonathan French, as from 18th December 1718.

George Hymers. Son of George Hymers of Newcastle. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 30th August 1721.

Edward French. Son of William French of Newburn. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 18th April 1727. Upon the death of Jonathan French, he was turned over to Isaac Cookson, as from 13th February 1733.


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Postby dognose » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:03 pm

John Carnaby of Newcastle

John Carnaby, the son of William Carnaby of Newcastle, was a former apprentice and later journeyman of Francis Batty II. He appears to have left the service of Batty around 1718 to set up business on his own account and became Warden of the Company of Goldsmiths of Newcastle for the first time in 1721, along side his former master Francis Batty.

Carnaby also appears to be the maker of the punches used at the Newcastle Assay Office, for in the minutes of the Company's meeting in May 1721, recorded in the disbursements column, a note 'To John Carnaby for two stamps & 3 letters of Essay--6s-2d'. It was also noted at the same meeting that the letter 'a' would be used for 1721, so maybe it was Carnaby that was responsible for the reversed lion, known to have been used from that date.

Batty and Carnaby were reunited to serve as Wardens again for the year 1727. This must have been a busy year for Carnaby as the year before he had taken over an Inn. The Inn-keeping business is confirmed in the minutes of the Company's meeting on 3rd May 1727 'To Mr Carnabys bill for dynner on Head Meeting Day--£2-0s-0d' and at the following years meeting on 6th May 1728 'To Mr Carnaby for last years entirtainmt £2-0s-0d' and also 'To Mr Carnabys note for charcole £1-0s-0d'.

The fare must have good at Carnaby's Inn, for the following year the Company returned there for the 1728 meeting, a note in the minutes of the 5th May 1729 records 'To Mr Carnaby for last years entertaiment £2-15s-0d.
The year 1729 saw Carnaby as Warden again, this time with Robert Makepeace. He was also in attendence at the meeting on 4th May 1730, this appears to leave no doubt that his silversmithing career continued as well as that of an Inn-keeper.

The Company again asked John Carnaby to make the punches for the Assay Office as a note in the minutes of 3rd May 1731 confirms 'Paid Mr Carnaby for severall sets of stamps £1-3s-0d'.
Margaret Gill in her excellent work on Newcastle silver has Carnaby dying in 1733, but he appears to have survived a little longer, for at the meeting on 5th May 1735, the minutes record 'To Mr Carnaby for last years entertainment £3-0s-0d'. This is the last mention of John Carnaby, but it would appear that his silversmithing business was carried on by his widow, as the following reference in the minutes of the meeting held on 3rd May 1738; 'Paid Mrs Carnaby & C when Wm. Carre Esq. was made free £1-16s-0d' this is the only reference I could find that John Carnaby may have had an apprentice. There is just one last note of the name of Carnaby, noted at the meeting of 4th May 1747 in the disbursements column 'Lost by Mrs Carnaby 9s' what that is an indication of, I'll doubt we'll ever know.

Journeymen of John Carnaby
Robert Abercromby Known to have been working May 1720

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Robert Makepeace of Newcastle

Robert Makepeace was another of Francis Batty II's apprentices, the son of Thomas Makepeace of Newcastle, he was indentured to Batty for a term of seven years as from the 2nd February 1707. Following the completion of his apprenticeship in 1714 he appears to have remained with Batty as a journeyman.

Robert Makepeace became Free on the 11th November 1718, and it was probably at this date that he entered into partnership with his former employer, but this would appear to have ended by early 1720.

At the Newcastle Company of Goldsmiths meeting on the 3rd May 1720, it was recorded that Robert Makepeace had taken his younger brother, Thomas, into apprenticeship as from 9th February 1719. I assume that this was a clerical error, and should have read 1720, for there would have been four meetings between those dates, and this important fact would have been recorded earlier. The same entry notes that Robert and Thomas's father was now deceased and Robert was to be paid a fee of twenty pounds for the indenture. The Company at this point fined Robert £5, for taking an apprentice before he had been Free three years, the usual fine, and to be expected. Fines such as this were a way of raising much needed revenue and were not seen as a 'rap over the knuckles'.

At the meeting on the 3rd May 1721, Robert Makepeace was elected to serve as Warden alongside James Kirkup for the coming year, this was a position he was to serve on several occasions during his career.

The minutes of the meeting held on the 2nd February 1730 reveal the story of two wayward apprentices. Luke Killingworth Potts, an apprentice of Robert Makepeace and Robert Ainsley, an apprentice of George Bulman were found to have been stealing from their Masters. Makepeace and Bulman were described in the minutes as " having sustained great loss and damage". Potts and Ainsley were both discharged from their positions and the minutes state that neither of them would ever be entitled or admitted to his Freedom of the Company.
At the same meeting, William Dalton, a Brother of the Company, was fined for buying gold rings from Potts, without acquainting Makepeace of the same, and was ordered to pay £3 to the Company and ordered to return the said rings or there value to Makepeace. In furture any goldsmith who purchased gold or silver, old or new, from any Brother's apprentice without immediately acquainting the said apprentice's Master, would be fined £10 by the Company for each offence and the goods forfeited.

The minutes of the meeting held on the 3rd May 1745, show the entry into the Company of Robert and Thomas, the sons of Robert Makepeace. There appears to be no record of their apprenticeships, but perhaps this entry is indicative of a active role in their fathers business.

Robert Makepeace died in 1755.

Below is a list of the known apprentices of Robert Makepeace.

Thomas Makepeace. Son of Thomas Makepeace of Newcastle. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 9th February 1720(?). The younger brother of Robert Makepeace.

Luke Killingworth Potts. Son of Luke Potts. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 25th March 1728. Discharged for theft.

William Wilkinson. Son of William Wilkinson. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 1st January 1732. Upon completion of his apprenticeship he set up business in Sunderland.

Thomas Blackett. Son of Thomas Blackett of Sedgefield. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 25th June 1732. He was later to become Foreman at John Langlands.
He is described by Thomas Bewick in his Memoir as 'This man, who was one of my Godfathers, had been foreman to the late John Langlands where he was much noticed as a man of most intrepid spirit and rendered remarkable for his honour, honesty and punctuality'.

Below is a list of the known journeymen of Robert Makepeace.

William Campbell. Known to have been working November 1726

Thomas Makepeace. Known to have been working May 1727

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Postby dognose » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:56 am

The Known Apprentices of John Hampston & John Prince of York 1770-1796

Thomas Hornby Son of George Hornby, Carpenter. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 26th February 1771. Free 1778. Noted as Jeweller of Spurriergate, York, 1784. Died January 1792.

William Tiler Son of Chamberlain Tiler of York, silversmith. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 2nd February 1778.

William Topham Son of Benjamin Topham of Thirsk, tailor. Term of Indenture: Eight years as from 2nd October 1778. Married Mary Ann Day. Died September 1797.

Robert Jones Son of Josiah Jones of Hull, goldsmith. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 22nd January 1782. Married Ann Breary.

Samuel Levy Son of Henry Levy, glass cutter. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 19th May 1785. Free 1792.

Richard Surr Son of John Surr of York, china & glassman. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 13th April 1787. Free 1794.

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The Known Apprentices of Hampston, Prince & Cattles of York 1796-1804

Richard Watson Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 17th May 1796.

Samuel Pierce Son of Thomas Pierce of Holywell, Flint, Wales, butcher. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 1st July 1796.

Thomas Stead Son of Michael Stead of York, horse dealer. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 1st October 1796. Became Assay Master at York c.1837-1839. Died 2nd May 1839 aged 59.

Edward Jackson Son of John Jackson of York, tailor. Term of Indenture: Eight years as from 11th March 1799. Free 1807. Died 5th October 1859 aged 73.

John Whip Son of William Whip, coal merchant. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 4th October 1799. Free 1820.
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James Barber Son of John Barber, cabinet maker & toyman. Born 4th October 1784. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 21st March 1800. Married Margaret Clark. Became Prime Warden of the Goldsmiths Company of York 1851. Died 10th March 1857 aged 73.

William Ferrand Son of William Ferrand of York, plane-maker. Term of Indenture: Eight years as from 18th April 1800.

Luke Creaser Son of William Creaser of York, farmer. Term of Indenture: Eight years as from 17th December 1800. Married Catherine Potter 1808. Free 1809.

Joshua Potts Son of John Potts of Howden, watchmaker. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 7th December 1802. Free 1810. Married Hannah Atlay. Committed suicide by arsenic poisoning on the 9th April 1854 aged 67.

John Duce Son of John Duce of York, shoemaker. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 25th April 1803.

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Postby dognose » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:59 pm

The Known Apprentices of Prince & Cattles of York 1804-1807

Benjamin Harrison Son of John Harrison the engraver at Hampston, Prince & Cattles. Term of Indenture: Eight years as from 23rd January 1805. Benjamin Harrison was to stay with the company for nearly thirty years, from apprentice to foreman. He died in 1836.

John Burrill Son of Thomas Burrill, Butcher of York. Term of Indenture: Seven years as from 10th September 1806. Free 1814. Assay Master at York 1839-c.1857. He died on the 14th April 1864, aged 73.
John Burrill was the subject of a damming report following a visit from the Wardens of the London Goldsmiths Company on 11th October 1851 as shown below.

The Goldsmiths Company of York consists of two persons, viz., James Barber, a manufacturing silversmith, who likewise makes wedding rings, and keeps the principal silversmiths and jewellers shop in York. He is Warden of the Company, and a magistrate of the city of York. John Bell, who keeps a retail silversmiths shop, is a manufacturer of wedding rings and a small worker in silver. John Burrill is the Assay Master, and John (Sic. Should be Stephen) Baker, a chemist, is the Clerk. John Burrill, the Assay Master was a worn-out spoonmaker in the employ of Mr Barber, the Warden, and evidently is, and always was, quite unfit for the employment of an assayer, being ignorant of the business, to which he was appointed 13 years since; he is paid £7 a year by Mr Barber, and £3 a year by Mr Bell, and keeps a small public house, which is also the nominal assay office. He has the charge of the punches, and marks what is sent to him by Mr Barber and Mr Bell, but he has no apparatus for assaying, nor even any pretensions to making assays. As he makes no assays, of course he keeps no diet, nor any check of what he marks, as bound by law. He asserted, that after making the necessary drawings and scrapings, the same were sent, either by himself, Mr Barber, or Mr Bell, to London, to Messrs. Johnson, in Hatton Garden, to be assayed, and if found correct, the articles were duly marked; but this assertion, made to Mr Johnson himself, having been shown to be false, he at length confessed his custom was to rely on the correctness of the two Wardens, who were the only manufacturers, and who had the silver from London, from Messers. Collins & Furber, which silver came with an assay, showing it to be standard; it was then manufactured so long as it lasted, and no assay was made, and that he marked it on the word of the manufacturer that it was correct.
That with regard to wedding rings, he was assured they were made from sovereigns; he therefore marked them as of 22 carat gold, without any assay.


The report appeared to do John Burrill little harm, as he remained the Assay Master at York for another six years.

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