F&T Tablespoons, Unknown Makers

[SilverSurfer]

I have two heavy fiddle and thread tablespoons marked for London, 1852-3 as below. The hallmarks are fairly crisp, but the makers' marks appear to be from a very worn punch (as opposed to being disfigured later, both marks appear to share the same abnormalities).



Here is a close-up of one of the marks:



Might someone recognize this worn punch and tally mark? I apologize for the poor pics (scans). TIA for any info!

SS

[admin]

SS,
Can you describe the letter used?

[Granmaa]

Samuel Hayne and Dudley Carter often struck there marks very poorly on flatware. Do you think it could be them?

Miles

[Granmaa]

edit to previous post:

"struck their mark very poorly"

[SilverSurfer]

Thanks, Granmaa, that may be it. The S, H and C seem to fit okay, the D not so well, looks more like an H, N or maybe R to me. I find my handwritten mark for S. Hayne and D. Carter in the margin of one of my references, but on a four leaf clover shape shield, not the square shield apparent on my and your spoon, but I can't remember where I saw that in the first place. Anyway, Hayne and Carter are the best fit so far. Thanks again!

SS