Help Identifying Mark....

[nikka0202]

Hello,
This mark was thought to be that of David Bessmann, Augsburg, Germany, mid 17th c. but it does not seem to match.
Any help or expertise is appreciated!
Kind Regards,
Victoria

[amena]

I don't know about that mark, but the cutlery is gorgeous.
Congratulations
Amena

[amena]

Could you tell us the length of the cutlery?
Thanks
Amena

[nikka0202]

Hi! It is lovely! I agree!
The knife is approx 8.5” ling and the fork is approx 12.5” long.
Thank you ,
Victoria

[Theoderich]

This mark was thought to be that of David Bessmann, Augsburg, Germany, mid 17th c. but it does not seem to match.

Hi Victoria,
Who came up with that?

If you would like the best expert's answer to the hallmarks, please photograph the master's mark. There probably won't be much left to see, but please do your best. Perhaps fragments of the letters IES will be discernible.

[nikka0202]

Hello,
Thank you for your reply, please find the only other marks that I found.
I appreciate you taking a look!
Best,
Victoira

[nikka0202]

Hi Amena,
I realize that I posted incorrect measurements (Apologies!).
The correct sizes are:
knife is 8.5"l, the fork 8"l

Thank you!
V

[Theoderich]

Hello,
Thank you for your reply, please find the only other marks that I found.
I appreciate you taking a look!
Best,
Victoira

I can not see the images yet, but I will say You, what I know about this hallmark.


Your hallmark is double struck, but it is identical to this one.

IES ... Johann Immanuel (Emmanuel) Schwarz, son of Johann Schwarz (goldsmith in Öhringen). As a citizen and goldsmith in Crailsheim, he married Maid Juliana Rosina Kühn on June 19, 1718.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crailsheim

[Theoderich]

Hello,
Thank you for your reply, please find the only other marks that I found.
I appreciate you taking a look!
Best,
Victoira

Are these two marks both on the fork? It's twice 13 for 13 lots (13/16 = 812,5/1000)