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hello can anyone tell me about this spoons hallmarks its bearded mans head with number1 in octagon and masters hallmark is B C or E C latters and some animal's back. THX

Hello

For the hallmarks see:

https://www.925-1000.com/Ffrench_marks.html

For the maker Ernest Compère see:

https://www.925-1000.com/Ffrench_makers_E.html

It is always a good idea to check the wonderful resources available on this website before asking for research assistance.

Regards.

::::::: Is this a Minerva guarantee for small silver articles? :::::::
::: My eyes cannot decipher the details or perhaps miss truck? :::

@Aguest
No, this is the Gorgon head guarantee mark for medium size objects in use 1819-1838.
Please see the table of French hallmarks linked above.
Regards.

:::::; I'm sorry I got confused because the working dates for this silversmith are listed as "1868 to 1888" so my brain prevented me from understanding that it was the Gorgon Head even though I was directly looking at it. ::::::::::::: The Gorgon Head seems to have been discontinued in 1838. :::::::

Silversmith hallmark : EC and a running rabbit.

Silversmith : Ernest Compère

He entered his mark in 1868 and struck it off in 1888 at 79 rue Quincampoix, Paris.

His widow takes over the business.

The above hallmarks seem to be on the silver spoon in question but is it true that these hallmarks are no longer struck after 1838?



I'm clearly missing something here, I've probably made an error, somehow?

No, I think you didn't make an error, it is not the mark of Ernest Compère. These French hallmarks are only used between 1819-1838. To me the letters appears to be B animal C


Peter.

The mark is that of Bazile Chenaillier:

Born: 13 Jun 1779
Married: Anne Sophie Dehanne
Died: 12 Mar 1826

He registered his first mark - BC with a hummingbird and a thrush – on 17 Feb 1807, but changed the device to the running rabbit on 31 Aug 1824, which was cancelled on 2 Apr 1829. It was presumably used in the three years after his death but before the mark’s cancellation by his widow, Anne Sophie Dehanne. Very likely the shop was run by Laurent Labbe (1794-1863), who registered his mark – LL with the running rabbit – on 6 Apr 1829 and married the widow Chenaillier on 2 Jun 1831.

The rabbit device was used by Labbe’s successor Etienne-Henri Sanoner 1852-1868, who was in turn succeeded by Ernest Compere, which is how he wound up using the device in his mark 1868-1888. (It was also used by Compere’s widow 1888-1919 and thence by Emile Jean Baptiste Savary).

Hope this helps!

blakstone

thx but i don't understand in which year is made my spoon in 1850 1860 s?

:::::::: If the animal in the hallmark is the running rabbit then aren't we looking for a date range of 1824 to 1829 to date the spoon? :::::::::::::

The guarantee marks were used 1819-1838. The maker's mark was used 1824-1829, which properly falls within the range.

Thus, we can conclude that your spoon was made between 1824 and 1829.