Identifying an italian hallmark and possibly dating

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C_H_B
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Identifying an italian hallmark and possibly dating

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Hello everybody

I need your help in dating a ring in my possession. The hallmark is Italian and it is "22 NO", I attach photos for clarity. Next to the mark is the 925 law wording and 925 also appears inside the ring. What does the double presence of 925 mean? Also, how come there is no star next to the manufacturer/dealer identification mark ? Thank you very much for any response.
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Re: Identifying an italian hallmark and possibly dating

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Follow the link in thread…seems to have begun under older system (pre-1968) even though footnotes are listing 1971 era: https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... ra#p139794
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Re: Identifying an italian hallmark and possibly dating

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Traintime wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:22 pm Follow the link in thread…seems to have begun under older system (pre-1968) even though footnotes are listing 1971 era: https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... ra#p139794
Thank you very much for your response. This adds some mystery in that if the hallmark was registered in 1971, under the new system, how come the hallmark of the previous system is on the ring? From what I know, the tools were being replaced with the tools updated to the current standard, and non-compliant tools were made impossible to use, so I think it is unlikely that the silversmith kept the old hallmark.
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Re: Identifying an italian hallmark and possibly dating

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According to another source, Margaroli had assigned the mark on 7/6/71 instead of 8/11/1971
On that date could not yet be available the new marks, the drawing of which were published in the official gazette of 17/8/1971, and in all likelihood they were not available in November 1971 either.
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Margaroli Carlo went out of businnes before 1995.
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Re: Identifying an italian hallmark and possibly dating

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Hi,

Carlo Margaroli was recorded as an importer, rather than a manufacturer, so that likely accounts for the two different '925' marks, one being applied by the actual maker.

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Re: Identifying an italian hallmark and possibly dating

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amena wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:43 am According to another source, Margaroli had assigned the mark on 7/6/71 instead of 8/11/1971
On that date could not yet be available the new marks, the drawing of which were published in the official gazette of 17/8/1971, and in all likelihood they were not available in November 1971 either.
Thank you so much Amena for the informations. Would this siginify that I could date the ring no later than the very early 1970s?
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Re: Identifying an italian hallmark and possibly dating

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dognose wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:49 am Hi,

Carlo Margaroli was recorded as an importer, rather than a manufacturer, so that likely accounts for the two different '925' marks, one being applied by the actual maker.

Trev.
Thank you dognose, this clarifies a lot.
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