Hy all
Im having some diffculties in recognizing the silversmith of this strange? small vermeil weinprobierschale and to interpret the writing under the case back, I thought it was Hebrew but they corrected me.
i read MB or MS joint together, could be Melchior Bair or Matthaus Blank...any suggestions and help?
Small weinprobierschale
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Re: Small weinprobierschale
ans there is'nt any hallmark, only this makers mark?
Can you find a "Tremolierstich"
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Can you find a "Tremolierstich"
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Re: Small weinprobierschale
Hy Theoderich, nope, any tremolierstich sign on it, just those I already uploaded. What do you think about them and the inscription? What language is that??Theoderich wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:04 pm ans there is'nt any hallmark, only this makers mark?
Can you find a "Tremolierstich"
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Re: Small weinprobierschale
Dear Theoderich any suggestions about the small cup?GiulyF wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:27 pmHy Theoderich, nope, any tremolierstich sign on it, just those I already uploaded. What do you think about them and the inscription? What language is that??Theoderich wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:04 pm ans there is'nt any hallmark, only this makers mark?
Can you find a "Tremolierstich"
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Re: Small weinprobierschale
:::::: Theoderich is extremely knowledgable & you must have patience ::::::
:::::: Those letters add an additional layer of mystery to the enigma. :::::
:::::: Those letters add an additional layer of mystery to the enigma. :::::
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Re: Small weinprobierschale
I'm afraid I can't give an answer here for now. Without hallmarks it is difficult to assign the bowl to a city. The initials MS are also not so rare as to significantly reduce the possibilities. It is also possible that the shell was not made in Germany. At least you can rule out the usual suspects (Augsburg, Nuremberg).
Re: Small weinprobierschale
::::: Are you leaning towards authentic 17th century object from somewhere in Europe (possibly Germany but not necessarily Germany). ::::::
::::: Any guess as to what the letters are meant to symbolize/signify?
::::: Any guess as to what the letters are meant to symbolize/signify?
Re: Small weinprobierschale
Dear Aguest I still trust in Theoderich to recognize the monogram and and thus also be able to date the artifact