Mystery mark on London 1884 silver chalice

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Mystery mark on London 1884 silver chalice

Postby Peartree » Thu May 13, 2021 3:38 pm

I have acquired this William Butterfield for Thomas Peard 1884 Neo Gothic chalice. See images. The base has a mystery mark of a “C in a sun”. It is not an assay mark I think but clearly marked alongside those. The letter C does not link to maker or designer. Perhaps a religious mark? All thoughts welcome thank you. Anthony

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Re: Mystery mark on London 1884 silver chalice

Postby AG2012 » Thu May 13, 2021 4:59 pm

Hi,
It is not letter C but sacred heart of Jesus (their trade mark: see bottom left in the advertisement).Light surrounding it signifies the divine light of love.
Although spelled differently (Heart and Hart), it may refer both to silversmith's name pronunciation and ecclesiastical products they made.
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Re: Mystery mark on London 1884 silver chalice

Postby AG2012 » Thu May 13, 2021 5:10 pm

See here, too (unfortunately, images have disappeared):
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=21138&p=62399&hilit=Hart%2C+Son%2C+Peard+%26+Co.#p62399

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Re: Mystery mark on London 1884 silver chalice

Postby dognose » Thu May 13, 2021 5:30 pm

I'll try and track down the missing images to that topic.

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Re: Mystery mark on London 1884 silver chalice

Postby Peartree » Fri May 14, 2021 2:43 pm

Thank you so much. My knowledge of matters religious is close to zero but to my eye the mark on the chalice looks just like the eyes of the owl in the top left of the advert? Is that plausible or just coincidence?

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Re: Mystery mark on London 1884 silver chalice

Postby AG2012 » Fri May 14, 2021 3:14 pm

Trade mark in the advert is the heart surrounded by flames.
The heart is clearly seen in your mark, although partially struck.
I think there is no controversy in regard of this additional mark on the chalice because it is seen on almost every ecclesiastical item made by Hart, Son, Peard & Co.
Compare with this set of marks:
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Re: Mystery mark on London 1884 silver chalice

Postby Peartree » Fri May 14, 2021 4:50 pm

Thank you


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