punch ladle 1853 stamp janushead

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punch ladle 1853 stamp janushead

Postby stijn » Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:36 am

hi, what would be origen? i found no maker's mark

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Re: punch ladle 1853 stamp janushead

Postby stijn » Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:40 am

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Re: punch ladle 1853 stamp janushead

Postby stijn » Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:43 am

Hi all, my excuses first of all for being junior posting on a forum
im quite new into research so any info could help. the head says 2 and 3? is it belonging to a specific family? im guessing because i live in brussels and found it here in old appartment
i found no other marks so far

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Re: punch ladle 1853 stamp janushead

Postby oel » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:16 am

Hi welcome to the forum. The Jason head with number 2 is indeed for Belgium, silver 2nd standard mark 833 fineness, used 1832-1869 . This standard mark punched in combination with office mark, often seen with the assayer' s mark and followed by a maker's mark. Perhaps those last two or three marks have been rubbed or unclear.
See:
https://www.925-1000.com/foreign_marks.html

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=45961&p=134985&hilit=Janus#p134985
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Re: punch ladle 1853 stamp janushead

Postby stijn » Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:44 am

ok thanks a lot, on the first picture there also T marked
is that the makers' mark?

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Re: punch ladle 1853 stamp janushead

Postby oel » Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:54 am

Please show us a clear enhanced image of the T mark and or all marks.
If it looks like T in square it could be the maker’s mark for; Godfried Thielen, silversmith with a workshop in Kleine-Brogel, Peer in Belgium, active 1843-?
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source;
Walter van Dievoet General index of Belgian silversmiths and hallmarks


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Re: punch ladle 1853 stamp janushead

Postby stijn » Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:02 pm

indeed it stands for Thielen ! thank so much for info


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