Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)

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dinio
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Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)

Postby dinio » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:50 pm

Hi,

I have a small silver statue (15 cm, 180 gr) which I believe was made in Lisbon (Portugal) at the beginning of the XXth century, but I am not sure.

Does anybody recognize the town mark precisely and also the maker's mark, in order to get an accurate age ?

Here is the statue:

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and here are the hallmarks:

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Thanks in advance

Dinio

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Postby 2209patrick » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:06 pm

I believe you are correct in saying the crown over L mark represents Lisbon, Portugal. Two of my books have it being used from 1881-1887.
Can't help you with the maker's mark.

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Pat.

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Postby dinio » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:55 pm

Hi Pat,
Tardy's book, which is my reference, represents exactly this kind of crown over an L for Lisbon 1881-1886, but within an ellips, not within the 6-sided polygonal shape which is present on this hallmark. This discrepancy lead me to think that it could be a later hallmark, sometime between 1886 and the beginning of the 20C.
In your references, do you have an exact match with the external shape of the hallmark ?
Thanks a lot for your help.
Regards,
Dinio

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Postby 2209patrick » Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:18 pm

I see what you mean about the outline of the mark, it is different from Tardy's. I have attached a scan from Jan Divis's book, the marks look the same as Tardy's. I looked through both books, but could not find a similar mark.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/3202 ... 003px1.jpg

I'm sure someone with more experience with these marks will come along and help you. I deal with mostly American silver.

Regards,
Pat.

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Re: Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)

Postby dognose » Thu May 02, 2013 2:00 pm

Hi,

I'm informed by a friend who has been reviewing some of the older posts, that the 'crowned L' mark pictured here, is in fact a Brazilian pseudo mark used in the last quarter of the 19th century.

The item is a toothpick holder, a popular item in 19th century Brazil.

The maker 'TAP' is unknown to him, but with the above information in mind, perhaps another member has some thoughts?

Trev.

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Re: Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)

Postby marcondes » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:57 pm

Hi,
The maker "TAP" is Thomaz de Aquino Pereira 1831-1851.
Best regards,
Marcondes

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Re: Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)

Postby dognose » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:22 am

Hi Marcondes,

Many thanks for taking the time to add the information to this topic. It's very much appreciated.

Trev.

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Re: Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)

Postby dinio » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:00 pm

Hi Marcondes and dognose,

Thanks a lot Marcondes for this final identification!

Thanks also Dognose and other admins for this website: this identification, almost 7 years after my initial post, appears to me as a great example of its immense value!

Dinio


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