Schleswig-Holstein spoon w/red glass stone - HOG

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Schleswig-Holstein spoon w/red glass stone - HOG

Postby dragonflywink » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:00 pm

Hoping to find the maker on this nice if well used spoon, just under 9" (22.8 cm), town mark appears to be Kiel or Schoenberg or thereabouts, and the maker 'HOG'. The pricked engraving looks to read, 'C.H.Bartram 1832.', thought it might possibly be a captain's spoon, the name seems English, and there was a George Bartram who founded a ship building firm in Sunderland in 1837, but my research pretty much stalled there...

Any help is much appreciated.

~Cheryl

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Re: Schleswig-Holstein spoon w/red glass stone - HOG

Postby Traintime » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:56 am

Could it have been aquired to mark a birth? Got a Cinderella Bartram born "circa 1834" on the Atlantic seaboard north of you from a Bartram family history (completed 1974)...all settled up by back holler and Kantuck areas.

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Re: Schleswig-Holstein spoon w/red glass stone - HOG

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Re: Schleswig-Holstein spoon w/red glass stone - HOG

Postby dragonflywink » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:41 am

Thanks for the effort, but seems extremely unlikely that this spoon was christening gift for a little girl in America - truthfully, my searches were focused on the shipping industry.

Hopefully one of our European members can come up with the maker...

~Cheryl

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Re: Schleswig-Holstein spoon w/red glass stone - HOG

Postby silverly » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:47 pm

Not a good match, but it might be worth looking at the notation that goes along with the Kiel, Germany mark: http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_marks_b1884_4.html

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Re: Schleswig-Holstein spoon w/red glass stone - HOG

Postby Theoderich » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:48 pm

there is no quick answer

in the books of B.Zeitzschel and H. Stirling are not a maker [HOG]

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Re: Schleswig-Holstein spoon w/red glass stone - HOG

Postby Theoderich » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:53 pm

But I got the information of B.Zeitzschel, it is Neumünster

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maker [HOG] = Hans Otto Ganzer

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Re: Schleswig-Holstein spoon w/red glass stone - HOG

Postby dragonflywink » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:41 pm

Thank you so much, Theo. A quick search finds that you already have the mark - really do miss your site, any hope of it being back up in the near future?

And thanks, Silverly - was aware of the similarities in some Schleswig-Holstein marks...

~Cheryl


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