Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

[SilverK]

Hi,

Could anybody advise who the maker was of this CCCP shot cup and confirm where, and approximately when, it was assayed? Given the hammer and sickle inside a 5-pointed star, this must have been assayed post May 1958 and with the atomic or space orbit pattern, I would hazard a guess that it was made either in the very late 50s or early 60s. The star is preceded by what looks to me like the number '3', but which I think is Ќ for Tallin, the assay city for this piece.

As always, any response is very welcome.

Regards,

silverk.

[dognose]

Hi SilverK,

See: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=16681&p=37617

and: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=39623&p=110010

I've no idea if it is 1961 or 1971, hopefully someone will explain how the year marking works.

Trev.

[SilverK]

Thanks for the links, Trev. I didn't realize the other mark was date-related. If this is 1971 and the engraving is space-related, then this wasn't a good year for the Soviet space programme (the crew was killed in Salyut 1), and it's rather close to America's success in 1969. 1961 was a rather better time!

All the best,

silverk.

[Qrt.S]

The Soviet year marking is at the same time complicated but as well simple when you understand the system. Try this thread where it is somehow explained 9 year ago:
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=16737&p=38380&hilit=Thie+period#p38380

I don't know why there are are strange characters here and there in the input.Anyway, the manufacturing year for your "rjumka" (vodka cup) is 1971

[AG2012]

Letter in Cyrillic З (Z) was assigned to Dagestan,North Caucasus region.
This is full mark of Dagestan Art Factory,
Regards

[Qrt.S]

Come'on AG2012. You know very well the difference between Cyrillic З and Э for Tallinn (Estonia).
Silverk wrote:

....what looks to me like the number '3'

[SilverK]

Gents,

Thanks QRT.s for the date. 1971 it is, then and Trev was right.

But I'm confused about the '3'. Is this for Tallin or Dagestan?

Regards,

Silverk.

[AG2012]

Таллинская (Таллин) Э
Северо-Кавказская (Прикаспийская,Махачкала) З

[Goldstein]

Hi -

here the marks and years. Notice the letter for Tallinn....



Regards
Goldstein

[dognose]

Hi Goldstein,

Great reference, thank you.

Trev.

[SilverK]

Hi all,

That's absolutely clear now, thanks. The examples set against the dates are particularly useful and clear. A superb way of presenting the information.

Regards,

Silverk.