St.Petersburg maker's mark?

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St.Petersburg maker's mark?

Postby Atlas » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:46 pm

Help would be appreciated with indentifying the maker's mark on the spoon in photos below if you please;
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( Unfortunately the podstakannik missing;-). )
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Re: St.Petersburg maker's mark?

Postby AG2012 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:26 pm

Hi,
PL № 1195.
Artamonov Andrey
АРТАМОНОВ Андрей Михайлович, крестьянин Ярославской губерн., влад. маст. зол. и сер. изд., 1898–1908 гг. 1892: сер. — чекан. и ордена, Рижский, 2, 1892–1903 с.: Рижский, 24. В 1898 г. выбран депутатом для осмотра торгово – промышленных заведений. Постникова—Лосева: клеймо № 1195.

What Kokoshnik is this ?
The position of Greek letter alpha ?


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Re: St.Petersburg maker's mark?

Postby Atlas » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:12 am

Thank you, AG2012 for your opinion regarding this matter, I do appreciate it.
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Re: St.Petersburg maker's mark?

Postby Qrt.S » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:19 am

Artamonov is one possibility, there are some other alternatives....Averbach, Andersson, Amberg and Asotov. All working in St Peterburg about the same time...

This troinik hallmark (КЛЕЙМО ЛОПАТКИ) is often punched on small objects among those on spoons. What is a bit strange here is undoubtedly the angle of alfa, but???

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Re: St.Petersburg maker's mark?

Postby Goldstein » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:36 am

Hi -

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The shown mark was in use from 1908-1926 - Artamonov A. (a spoon maker) worked until 1908. So everything looks right on the first glance.
My opinion: the marks looks "strange", the spoon (bowl) is differently shaped - and the rest is very crude. Last but not least: I know this spoons only as fakes....

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Re: St.Petersburg maker's mark?

Postby AG2012 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:41 pm

Hi,
Goldstein is right.
From a Russian forum:
Tea spoon ``Bear on the tree`` 84
40 g. 15 cm

Ложка чайная ,,Медведь сидит на дереве ,, 84 проба .
Вес 40 гр. Длина 15 см.

Modern product
Современное творчество


Another one, maker ``LK``.

There must be a genuine one somewhere; I doubt they sculptured it - much easier to cast from already existing model.

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Re: St.Petersburg maker's mark?

Postby Atlas » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:17 pm

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Circa 17.5cm.

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Re: St.Petersburg maker's mark?

Postby Atlas » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:55 am

Different model(s)...?


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