French Hallmarks - Need Help

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terri232
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French Hallmarks - Need Help

Postby terri232 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:52 pm

I have 3 different marks on small sterling pieces and cannot seem to id any of them. Would so appreciate some help with thanks.
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JayT
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Re: French Hallmarks - Need Help

Postby JayT » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:31 pm

Not French; sorry!

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Re: French Hallmarks - Need Help

Postby terri232 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:06 pm

Okay - I'll accept that - but - then, what county are the marks attributed to?

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Re: French Hallmarks - Need Help

Postby oel » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:47 pm

Hi,

Not sure but perhaps Belgian marks, the W crowned could be the mark of Belgian jeweler Joseph Wauters (1832-?), and the other marks looks like a wulf perhaps for a member of the Belgian Wolfers family and with unrecorded marks(?)

Belgium
To defend against severe competition of imported silver from France and Germany, the Belgian silversmiths petitioned for a change in the laws governing their work. As a result, 1868 to 1942 became a period of great liberalism: official silver standards were lowered to 900 and 800, no Hallmarking office assay was needed and, there was no registration of personal marks. As an unintended consequence of this liberalism, it is today difficult to identify Belgian silver from that period because each of the silversmiths and retailers used their personal assay marks.

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Re: French Hallmarks - Need Help

Postby huszas76 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:06 am

Hello!
I don't know an exact solution. But maybe help for you, if check this conference about a beaker. There is some similarity and matches.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=40877&p=114709#p114709
and this one:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=44616&p=129040&hilit=vevey#p129040
Best regards!
Krisztián

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Re: French Hallmarks - Need Help

Postby AG2012 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:54 am

Hi,
This is obviously the same mark with A 800.Meaning, it cannot be older than late 19th century.
``A BELGIAN SILVER FLATWARE SERVICE, stamped A800`` has been offered elsewhere.
What do we know about A 800?
What`s the coin in ``small sterling pieces``? (There seems to be a coin in the image).
Regards
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Re: French Hallmarks - Need Help

Postby Dendriet » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:00 am

AG2012 wrote:Hi,
This is obviously the same mark with A 800.Meaning, it cannot be older than late 19th century.
``A BELGIAN SILVER FLATWARE SERVICE, stamped A800`` has been offered elsewhere.
What do we know about A 800?
What`s the coin in ``small sterling pieces``? (There seems to be a coin in the image).
Regards
Image


The pictures with wolf W.Z comes from this site. http://www.ascasonline.org/newsDICEM115.html
Makers mark: Wolf Sylvian - Bruxelles 22-4-1942 to ± 1954

AG2012 wrote:.
What do we know about A 800?


The finess mark A 800 is the official finess mark 01-01-1942 to 23-02-1990
(Appilcation or Decree no. 80 of 28th movember 1939)

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Re: French Hallmarks - Need Help

Postby Dendriet » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:30 pm

I see no agreement with the Belgian silver Hallmarks.

Perhaps this is plated.


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