Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona
Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona
Hello,
I would like to have more information relative to these marks, but unfortunatly I do not have any book relating to Spanish silver.
What I read :
- CAR/XO : silversmith ?
- BAR under a star ? : probably Barcelona, XVIIIe s., but I could not be more precise.
- unidentified mark (mark proving that purity was tested ? that taxes were paid, like "charge" mark for French silver of 18e century ?)
http://hpics.li/3a46ad4
Any help apreciated, thanks.
I would like to have more information relative to these marks, but unfortunatly I do not have any book relating to Spanish silver.
What I read :
- CAR/XO : silversmith ?
- BAR under a star ? : probably Barcelona, XVIIIe s., but I could not be more precise.
- unidentified mark (mark proving that purity was tested ? that taxes were paid, like "charge" mark for French silver of 18e century ?)
http://hpics.li/3a46ad4
Any help apreciated, thanks.
Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona
Hi,
You will have far more chance of getting an answer if you embed your images as very few people will click on links or thumbnails.
Trev.
You will have far more chance of getting an answer if you embed your images as very few people will click on links or thumbnails.
Trev.
Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona
Tanks for your help Trev !
Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona
The only thing that I can add is that the centre mark is one used at Barcelona and that it was in use during the the first half of the 19th century.
Trev.
Trev.
Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona
It's really Barcelona. Most likely the beginning of the 19th century. Unfortunately the maker (or assayer?) is unknown to me.
Best regards.
Best regards.
Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona
Dear Ubaranda,
Thank you for your confirmation.
Can you give me the reference of the book from which the image is extracted ?
I am surprised that for a main city like Barcelona, the book displays the mark for 16th c.,1825, but not for 17th c nor 18th c. !
I seems that there is not so many books about Spanish marks, isn't ?
Thanks.
Thank you for your confirmation.
Can you give me the reference of the book from which the image is extracted ?
I am surprised that for a main city like Barcelona, the book displays the mark for 16th c.,1825, but not for 17th c nor 18th c. !
I seems that there is not so many books about Spanish marks, isn't ?
Thanks.
Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona
Hi anikopol!
It's not a book. It's site http://www.munozarce.com/index.htm
There are two most interesting and useful section:
http://www.munozarce.com/contrastes/loc ... efault.htm
http://www.munozarce.com/contrastes/pla ... /index.htm
Best regards.
It's not a book. It's site http://www.munozarce.com/index.htm
There are two most interesting and useful section:
http://www.munozarce.com/contrastes/loc ... efault.htm
http://www.munozarce.com/contrastes/pla ... /index.htm
Best regards.
Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona
Buenos días.
Barcelona utilizó esa marca entre los siglos XVIII y XIX. (La Cruz de San Jorge, patrón de la ciudad, sobre las siglas BAR.)
Adjunto una foto del ensayador utilizada a mediados del XVIII.
Siento no conocer mas datos.
Saludos
Google translation:
Good Morning.
Barcelona used that mark between the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. (The Cross of St. George, patron saint of the city, on the acronym BAR.)
Attached is a photo of the assayer used in the middle of the XVIII.
Sorry to hear no more data.
regards
Barcelona utilizó esa marca entre los siglos XVIII y XIX. (La Cruz de San Jorge, patrón de la ciudad, sobre las siglas BAR.)
Adjunto una foto del ensayador utilizada a mediados del XVIII.
Siento no conocer mas datos.
Saludos
Google translation:
Good Morning.
Barcelona used that mark between the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. (The Cross of St. George, patron saint of the city, on the acronym BAR.)
Attached is a photo of the assayer used in the middle of the XVIII.
Sorry to hear no more data.
regards
Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona
Hi everyone,
I've found this topic now and i'd like to clear information.
About city hallmarks. As our colleague has indicated, +BAR, is used during the 18th century until 1853. But it's not a cross of St george, but a Malta's cross.
CAR/XO corresponds to the hallmark of the first consul marker of Barcelona for the year 1773, Francesc Carrutxo. We do not rule out that he may have been first marker consul some other year.
Regards
Jaume
I've found this topic now and i'd like to clear information.
About city hallmarks. As our colleague has indicated, +BAR, is used during the 18th century until 1853. But it's not a cross of St george, but a Malta's cross.
CAR/XO corresponds to the hallmark of the first consul marker of Barcelona for the year 1773, Francesc Carrutxo. We do not rule out that he may have been first marker consul some other year.
Regards
Jaume