W Lameyer

[Littlejohnpotter]

Does anyone have info on this maker? I think it is German. It is on a sugar bowl? Thanks for any help.

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[SteveDWollongong]

Hi,

I have embedded the photo for you;

Cheers
Steve

[SteveDWollongong]

Okay, so the first mark of W. Lameyer is I believe, the retailers mark for Wilhelm Lameyer of Hannover.
The next mark, which I 'll call a picture of a screw press, is the makers trademark. Although not identical to the various marks illustrated on this website, I think it probably belongs to M.H Wilkens and Sons of Bremen.

see what you think but before positively attributing to Wilkens, I'd wait to see what others have to say.

http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_marks_a1884_9.html

Cheers,
Steve

[silverfan]

yes, maker is Wilkens, Bremen and seller Lameyer, Hannover.
Regards silverfan

[Littlejohnpotter]

Thanks the info is great. Any idea on the age/dare of this.

[SteveDWollongong]

A photo of the sugar bowl would help in dating it.

All I can tell you from the marks is that it was made after 1886 when the crescent and crown were introduced.

Cheers,
Steve

[Dendriet]

Hi Steve,

Somewhere between 1916 and 1943 (Wilhelm Lameyer * 10-8-1889 - + 30-5-1928)
His father Carl Lameyer * 19-4-1847 - + 24-4-1923 (W.Lameyer & Son)

(30-5-1928) The company was continued by widow Magda Lameyer-Eicke

At the first major air attack on Hanover on 26-7-1943 the company was destroyed
The company was launched in 1956





Best Regards
Dendriet

[Dendriet]

Addition:

Widow Magda Lameijer-Eicke * 11-8-1895 - + 28-6-1956

[Dendriet]

Correction

Grrrrrmmmmpfffffff...............

The company name is deleted in 1956

Stupid translator

[SteveDWollongong]

Dendriet you are a star! Again you've managed to provide the best details.

Cheers,
Steve

[Dendriet]

Thanks Steve, I will change my name

Dendriet

[Dendriet]

A photo of the sugar bowl would help in on a more precise dating it.
Jugendstil/art nouveau or art deco

Best Regards
Dendriet

[Dendriet]

Thanks the info is great. Any idea on the age/dare of this.

Hi LittleJohnPotter,

We asked for a picture to give you a more sharp age of the sugar bowl.

No answer or response received.

Are you satisfied with the answer that I have given.?

If the answer is not clear enough, we would like to hear that.

Best Regards
Dendriet

[Littlejohnpotter]

Great answers, even better history. Thanks.



Admin photo edit - remember to use the preview feature

[Dendriet]

Hi

Thanks for the picture.

I see that there is the interpretation may be wrong between production MH Wilkens and Sons and retailer / sales Lameyer.
If necessary we must observe to the turbulent times in Germany (stock)
That's why I am call on our on our German colleagues who have more insight and connect to the correct date according to the number 59037 (Wilkens).

Best Regards
Dendriet

[Dendriet]

Hi,

I knew there was something wrong
Good thing we have requested the photo
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilkens_%26_S%C3%B6hne

Marken
Um 1810 bis um 1830 führte man den kursiven Schriftzug Wilkens, später den Namen in Versalien als Meisterzeichen neben dem Beschauzeichen „Bremer Schlüssel“. Zwischen 1874 und 1886 ist die Halbmondmarke als Zeichen für 750er Silber in Gebrauch. Seit 1886 ist die Spindelpresse eingetragenes Warenzeichen des Unternehmens und wird bis heute als Fabrikmarke gestempelt.

Auftragsnummern
Neben Fabrikmarke und Reichsstempel wurden bei Wilkens oft zusätzlich Auftragsnummern gepunzt. Sie wurden in chronologischer Folge vergeben und so erlaubt es die folgende Tabelle, ältere Korpusstücke der Firma aufs Jahr genau zu datieren. Ab etwa 1927 wurden nur noch bei besonderen Einzelanfertigungen Auftragsnummern gestempelt (bei Serienware trat an ihre Stelle eine vierstellige Modellnummer). Bestecke hatten eine eigene, nicht gestempelte Modellnummernfolge. In der Tabelle ist jeweils die in den Auftragsbüchern des jeweiligen Jahres zuletzt vergebene Nummer vermerkt.

According to the production list, the year of production number 59037 has to be between 1885 -1886

Best Regards
Dendriet

[Littlejohnpotter]

Thanks, this is older than I thought. Great information.

[Dendriet]

Hi Littlejohnpotter,

My pleasure

I knew the order number of Wilkens was the key.
The data of Wilkens were stored in my PC, but lost for some reasons.

I wanted to be clever to develop this through the retailer's mark
Both stories Wilkens and Lameyer are correct, only in a different time for certain reasons
Finally, still decided to get the right data through Wilkens, (this time by Wikipedia)

Here's a good example, how important it is, to have a picture of the object

Best Regards
Dendriet