Sorry, clueless here. IML on boat shaped Salt?

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Sorry, clueless here. IML on boat shaped Salt?

Postby collectingfool » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:44 pm

Usually I can figure out at least a country or an age. Have no idea here, hoping to be pointed in the right direction so at least I can do some research myself. Thank you in advance!

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Re: Sorry, clueless here. IML on boat shaped Salt?

Postby oel » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:04 am

Hi,

Germany, Augsburg 1770(?) Maker's mark perhaps misformed/mis struck IWK, check out Jakob Wilhelm Kolb.
http://silberpunze.freehost.ag/index.php?id=5


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Re: Sorry, clueless here. IML on boat shaped Salt?

Postby Dendriet » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:10 am

oel wrote:Hi,

Germany, Augsburg 1770(?) Maker's mark perhaps misformed/mis struck IWK, check out Jakob Wilhelm Kolb.
http://silberpunze.freehost.ag/index.php?id=5


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Perhaps, JML

Johann Martin Langenbauer 1747 - 1792
Augsburg P = 1761 - 1763

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Re: Sorry, clueless here. IML on boat shaped Salt?

Postby AG2012 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:41 am

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This is from Rosenberg, Band I
There seems to be one more mark on the left in the first image, or it`s another date letter.
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Re: Sorry, clueless here. IML on boat shaped Salt?

Postby collectingfool » Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:48 am

Thank you all for the replies, very much appreciated! And no, there is no third mark, it's just a dark spot that needs polishing. So, just so I know in the future, that second mark is for Germany?

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Re: Sorry, clueless here. IML on boat shaped Salt?

Postby AG2012 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:00 am

Actually, it`s for Augsburg. Namely, in 1886 individual town mark was abolished and ``Reichsmark`` (crescent and crown for a minimum standard .800) was introduced. Meaning, silver prior to that year was marked with individual town marks, silver fineness in Loths (12 or 13), maker`s mark etc.
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Re: Sorry, clueless here. IML on boat shaped Salt?

Postby collectingfool » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:03 am

Tried to revise my question but couldn't find how to edit. Thanks to your information I found the mark. Unless I missed something the second mark indicates Augsburg City (Bavaria) 1761-1763. I figured it was old but didn't realize that old. Thank you again for your help.

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Re: Sorry, clueless here. IML on boat shaped Salt?

Postby Theoderich » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:22 am

this Object is about from 1800
Makersmark [IML] = Johann Matthias Lang (vgl. [SELING] Nr.2591).
master 1782, oo(I) 1793, oo (II) 1793, + >1806

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Re: Sorry, clueless here. IML on boat shaped Salt?

Postby AG2012 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:10 am

Theoderich has solved the issue.
I suspected Empire style but had no reference for IML other than that mentioned in Rosenberg.
Letter ``P`` should be for 1804 (R# 294).
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