Unknown silvermark

[Smokanabeach]

Hi All!

As I don't know where this cup come from I post it in this section. First, I was thinking it could be Portuguese but...



Silver hallmarks:



Silversmith hallmark and what I consider to be the "french swan":




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Searching on the forum I found the topic bellow about Julien Derriey:

http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35917

What I can not at all identify are the other hallmarks.

Thanks for your help!

Best regards,

Don SMoka

[Dad]

Hi, Smokanabeach

Thanks to dear blakstone : " It's Swiss, from the workshop of Georg Adam Rehfues (1784-1858; Master 1808) and his son Philipp Rudolf Rehfues (1820-1866) of Bern."

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35048&p=91141&hilit=Georg+Adam+Rehfues#p91141

[Smokanabeach]

Hi Dad! What a memory!

It looks I did not search enought!!! So thank you!

Can we conclude it has been sell by Philipp Rudolf Rehfues (1820-1866) of Bern and made by Julien Derriey, (1812-1865)? Or may the contrary? Or something as for russian silver items: a maker and an asseyer?

Thanks again.

Best regards,

Don Smoka