Monogram identification

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elenabutov
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Monogram identification

Postby elenabutov » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:21 am

Hi everybody.I need ideas: what the letters engraved on the gravy boat and is any possibility of identification of the owner.Thank you for your help.
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Re: Monogram identification

Postby nobilityhouse » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:18 pm

I'm not sure this is a Latin (or Roman) alphabet. Then perhaps it would be TA ? I've tried some of the Cyrillic styles, but I'm not that familiar with them. Since this was made in Vienna (Wien) I've looked over a map and tried researching alphabets of neighboring countries, such as Hungary. I'm sorry, but I've found nothing I could state with confidence. Anybody else?

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Re: Monogram identification

Postby Argentum2 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:02 pm

This link should identify the maker and provide some clues about the marks.

http://www.ascasonline.org/articoloDICEM104.html

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Re: Monogram identification

Postby Argentum2 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:14 pm

And here is the history of the firm which was founded in 1843

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berndorfe ... arenfabrik

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Re: Monogram identification

Postby Argentum2 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:15 pm

The script is, I think, Latin: AJ or AT

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Re: Monogram identification

Postby elenabutov » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:11 pm

Hi. Thank you for desire to help. I think that it's not A - there is no horizontal line.
Maybe it's Cyrillic, used in Russia until 1918? Letter "И" had two option writing: И and I.
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Re: Monogram identification

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:23 pm

That may be so but I am inclined to think that the script is Latin and possibly in "Frackschrift", the Gothic type alphabet in common use throughout Germany until WWII.

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Re: Monogram identification

Postby Argentum2 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:37 pm

possibly a "Y" in alt Fraktur

http://vau-ef-be.beepworld.de/files/alt ... oderne.jpg

but many other examples of alt and moderne Fraktur here:

https://www.google.ie/search?q=frakturs ... TWp7E-M%3A

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Re: Monogram identification

Postby DianaGaleM » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:17 pm

This could be Russian script "G" and "L":

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