Help identifying Russian Caucasian Kindjal dagger

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Help identifying Russian Caucasian Kindjal dagger

Postby micaela » Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:55 pm

Hi, I found this Caucasian Kindjal dagger and I like know the maker marks help.

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Re: Help identifying Russian Caucasian Kindjal dagger

Postby Dad » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:04 pm

Hi.
It is a typical Caucasian dagger. The dagger is decorated with silver 84. Such daggers were also in using in the Russian Cossack troops in the Caucasus.
Very interesting hallmark. The type corresponds to the period 1860-1882. In a mark are represented 84 and the Coat of Arms of the Kutaisi Governorate ( of the Russian Empire) - Golden Fleece. Nowadays Kutaisi province is part of the Republic Georgia (Caucasus).
I can assume that in the Kutaisi province the provincial assayer worked some time and had the punch. I think, initials on a dagger sheath M.D.H. (Cyrillics М.Д.Х.) belong to the owner.

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Re: Help identifying Russian Caucasian Kindjal dagger

Postby Dad » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:24 am

For addition.

Coat of Arms of the Kutaisi Governorate:


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Please, show the dagger without sheath.

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Re: Help identifying Russian Caucasian Kindjal dagger

Postby micaela » Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:03 pm

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Re: Help identifying Russian Caucasian Kindjal dagger

Postby Qrt.S » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:26 am

@Dad
This dagger has an interesting hallmark indeed. I have not seen it before. Do you by any chance know the name and working period of the assayer(s) who punched this hallmark?

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Re: Help identifying Russian Caucasian Kindjal dagger

Postby Dad » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:44 am

Hi.

micaela, thanks. I already saw gallery of a photo on eBay

Qrt.S
Unfortunately, I didn't see the confirming documents that in certain provinces of the Transcaucasian Assay District (a zone of responsibility of Tiflis's Assay Office) the provincial probirer worked. But I assume that in provincial State Chamber (Губернская Казенная Палата) there was an official man with provincial hallmark (punch). But short time.
Transcaucasian Assay District (Закавказский Пробирный Округ) in the 1880th included the following Governorates:
Tiflis, Erivan, Elisavetpole, Kutaisi and Baku.
I have examples of hallmarks of Baku and Elisavetpole. Why not to exist to the Kutaisi hallmark?
The hallmark looks graphically correctly.

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Re: Help identifying Russian Caucasian Kindjal dagger

Postby Qrt.S » Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:12 am

Thanks Dad.

This hallmark was in use before 1882 but what's interesting is that the Transcaucasia "administration office" was opened not earlier than in 1897. The first assayer was Iosif Schmidetsky 1897-1908.


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