1753 Beaker from Moscow

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1753 Beaker from Moscow

Postby R ingo » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:59 am

Hello,
can anybody help me with this marks on a beaker from Moscow?

Kind regards,
Ringo

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Re: 1753 Beaker from Moscow

Postby Zolotnik » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:14 am

Hi Ringo-
the assayer I read as МГ, 1752-1771. Unfortunately his name is not known. After cleaning the mark maybe other interpretation is possible.
The maker TC is Silujanov, Timofej Filippov, 1752-1802.
Source: PL

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Re: 1753 Beaker from Moscow

Postby R ingo » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:07 pm

Hello Zolotnik,
I thank you very much for your help.

I would be glad, if someone has an idea, what the Mr. Osbourne has to do with russian silver (when you google lloyd osbourne silver beaker, you can find two more beakers with his name).

Thanks and kind regards,
Ringo

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Re: 1753 Beaker from Moscow

Postby oel » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:34 pm

Hi Ringo,

This Lloyd Osbourne could be the American author Samuel Lloyd Osbourne, who was the stepson of Scottish author Robert Louis Stevenson with whom he would co-author three books and provide input and ideas on others.
The other beakers you mentioned are claimed to be a present of Robert Louis Stevenson to Lloyd Osbourne but I do not know the story to be correct or through. How to verify?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Louis_Stevenson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Osbourne

Oel.

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Re: 1753 Beaker from Moscow

Postby R ingo » Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:22 am

Hello Oel,

I thank you for the information.
It is really attractive thought, that the formerly owner was the stepson of R.L. Stevenson. But by nature I am a critical person.

I just was very surprised to find three russian beakers from the 18th century with the same younger owners name in USA and Germany.
Thanks and kind regards,

Ringo


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