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[Zolotnik]

Hi -
the maker C.X of this samorodok box from Moscow is unknown to me. Any help welcome.







Regards
Zolotnik

[numis.geneve]

I dont know about the case but can tell you these "medals" or whatever they are are either made by the jeweler during the manufacture or modern additions, definitely does not date to 1730 the strike is too primitive and definitely not government issue. Any ideas on the gold content?

[numis.geneve]

Ok so I found the the 1730 -it is a Fake gold ducat from Brunswick-Luneburg-Calenberg-Hannover

[Zolotnik]

Hi -
the jetons or medals are goldsmith made. As an intelligent guy you can read the text. Text one (German): Wohlgerat(h)ene Juge(w)d macht Freude. 2 spelling errors - so I suppose the maker did not speak German or Latin.. Translation: Probably guessed youth enjoy. Text two ( Latin): Nuc asperent terrentis, also wrong written - it must read correct: Nec aspera terrent: „Auch Schwierigkeiten schrecken uns nicht. Translation: Even difficulties do not frighten us. The last coin is a German,friendly montain goast from the Siebengebirge, called "Rübezahl".
Facit: the person who let all this gold applications made on order, must be German or at least German speaking with some educational backgrond. The applikations are no fakes but phantasy products made on demand in a very professional, artistic manner - but a lot of bad spelling.
If you stop thinking in ducats all the time you can make things reveal a story - but that requires a minimum of knowledge .....

[numis.geneve]

Come on really,You are not an expert in everything, I am not crazy about ducats, but the 1730 is a fake ducat, don't push it when you don't know.At least in Professional Numismatic Catalogs

[Zolotnik]

Blurry photos like always. Must be a verry cheap phone,,,,in pink, China?
Try a camera, they sell them cheaper than dirt!

[Qrt.S]

Unfortunately it seems to that this C.X master is unknown to everybody. No trace of him anywhere.

[numis.geneve]

Resorting to insults when you loose is very childish. About the phone write a complaint to apple, not too happy myself.

[Zolotnik]

Thank you very much for your effort!
Regards
Zolotnik