Dutch Dinner Spoon

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leo22
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Dutch Dinner Spoon

Postby leo22 » Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:42 am

Hi,

I have found 4 dinner spoons, I think Netherlands but I don't know. Maybe you know what silvermarks says?

Here I have some pictures.

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Re: Dutch Dinner Spoon

Postby oel » Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:42 am

Hi,

Why do you think these spoons could be Dutch silver? I do not see any Dutch (hall) marks to support your claim and these spoons might not even been made out of silver. The dinner spoons could be made out of alpaca(German silver) see:
http://www.925-1000.com/silverglossary.html

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Re: Dutch Dinner Spoon

Postby Athos » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:40 pm

Hi,

To me it looks like the early silver mark of Emden in Ostfriesland.

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Re: Dutch Dinner Spoon

Postby oel » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:10 pm

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Hi Athos,

During the Napoleonic French era, Em(b)den and the surrounding lands of East Frisia were part of the short-lived Kingdom of Holland with the city assay office mark a pair of pliers in an oval shield used 1807-1812

According to Marc Rosenberg : Emden (Hannover)
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I agree it comes close but I have some doubts, I move it to the German section and I leave it for Theodrich to decide.

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Re: Dutch Dinner Spoon

Postby Theoderich » Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:24 pm

Hendrick Nicolaus Groenewold
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master 4.5.1767

[€W] ca.1768-69

ref.W.Scheffler, Goldschmiede Niedersachsens, p.335, no.167 , BZ: #665, MZ: #666

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Re: Dutch Dinner Spoon

Postby Theoderich » Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:26 pm

(admin edit - see Posting Requirements )

or can you make better images of the makersmark for my little ecyclopedia ?

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Re: Dutch Dinner Spoon

Postby Theoderich » Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:40 pm

[€W] also used 1794 - like this.
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Re: Dutch Dinner Spoon

Postby oel » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:08 pm

Ref.W.Scheffler, Goldschmiede Niedersachsens, p.335, no.167 , BZ: #665, MZ: #666
Hendrick Nicolaus Groenewold
https://books.google.nl/books?id=SsquCg ... old&f=true


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Re: Dutch Dinner Spoon

Postby leo22 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:28 am

Woow, thank you for this discussion. Some information: I found it in a collection of dutch silver. They said: 18th century from Holland. So I was curious what you think.

Thank you very much for this information. Nice forum!

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Re: Dutch Dinner Spoon

Postby leo22 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:30 am

I make new pictures for you tomorrow. From the best hallmark of this 4 spoons.


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