Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and Finland
PHOTOS REQUIRED - marks + item
rynegold
Posts: 128
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:44 am
Location: Montgomery Texas, USA

Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Postby rynegold » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:57 pm

I would like to know if anyone has a way to date this piece. And; what exactly is it? I know sometimes things/items have multiple uses but this being Danish I though perhaps it had/has some specific use.

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

A slide show:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/19089828@ ... 0508/show/

Any help appreciated!

Regards, mitch

dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 50679
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Postby dognose » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:04 pm

Hi Mitch,

Just an outrageous shot in the dark, but I would take a guess at 1901.

See: http://www.925-1000.com/dm_Assay.html

and: http://www.925-1000.com/denmarkM.html

Please ensure your images do not exceed the 7" guidelines.

Trev.

rynegold
Posts: 128
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:44 am
Location: Montgomery Texas, USA

Re: Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Postby rynegold » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:35 pm

dognose you've done it again!! Thanks!
I thought of the Art Nouveau period the minute I layed eyes on it. But for sure the maker's link you provide sure matches up nicely with Simon Groth's mark, the use of which apparently ended by 1904. Tha would put it squarely in the Art Nouveay period; very cool. I love this little... whatever it is. The repousse work is just plain stunning.

thanks again!

Regards, mitch

Hose_dk
contributor
Posts: 1526
Joined: Sun May 28, 2006 1:39 pm
Location: Denmark

Re: Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Postby Hose_dk » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:44 pm

The Royal Cph mark is before 1923.
58 is the painters number.
584 is either a patern number or could be a color code.

M is for Michelsen

Hose_dk
contributor
Posts: 1526
Joined: Sun May 28, 2006 1:39 pm
Location: Denmark

Re: Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Postby Hose_dk » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:47 pm

use for chokolade.

rynegold
Posts: 128
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:44 am
Location: Montgomery Texas, USA

Re: Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Postby rynegold » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:56 pm

Fabulous!!!

So as dognose and Hose_dk imply, the "M" with the crown over it could be A. Michelsen. The page on Danish smiths says just "1930's" as to a time frame for that stamp. Question is, why are there two distinct maker's marks on this piece?, a collaboration perhaps? One doing the silver smith work and the other the repousse? For sure as dognose points out, the date is "01".

Chocolate eh? I love that!


Thanks everyone!!

Regards, mitch

dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 50679
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Postby dognose » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:59 pm

Where do you see two maker's marks?

Trev.

rynegold
Posts: 128
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:44 am
Location: Montgomery Texas, USA

Re: Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Postby rynegold » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:42 pm

I thought the "M" with the crown was a maker's mark... as shown on the page you noted in your first post, third one down??

http://www.925-1000.com/denmarkM.html

WarrenKundis
contributor
Posts: 626
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:20 pm

Re: Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Postby WarrenKundis » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:39 pm

Hi Mitch,

Are you referring to the fact that there are two complete sets of the same marks? If any product is constructed from more than one piece, each part would be marked. More commonly seen in British sterling. Otherwise there are no additional makers mark there beyond the A Michelsen mark.

Warren

Hose_dk
contributor
Posts: 1526
Joined: Sun May 28, 2006 1:39 pm
Location: Denmark

Re: Royal Copenhagen silver mounted pitcher

Postby Hose_dk » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:52 pm

The set of marks is 3 Towers for Copenhagen and silver.
M for maker and thats Michelsen
925 for sterling - 3 Towers is for minimum 830
The last mark is Guardein - he has nothing to do with maker - the guardein controles the silver content.

The 3 Towers and guardein mark is set by guardein.
Makers mark (and in this case) 925 is set by maker.


Return to “Scandinavian Silver”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests