Crest on Odiot Flatware 1906-1956

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Crest on Odiot Flatware 1906-1956

Postby silverfan » Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:37 am

Hi all,
spoons and forks of this Odiot pattern (name or no.?) bear the marks used from 1906-1956. On the reverse there is a family crest with the motto "IUVAT PIETAS" Does anybody know to what family it belongs?
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Re: Crest on Odiot Flatware 1906-1956

Postby WarrenKundis » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:46 pm

Hi Silverfan,

Piety stands with me. One possibility is the House of Croy who had branches in Belgium, France, and Prussia. The right side of the shield seems to bear a Prussian eagle, with the left a partial fleur de lis in the upper right. Try Princess Isabella of Croy 1856-1931. See how that works out for you.

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Re: Crest on Odiot Flatware 1906-1956

Postby silverfan » Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:08 am

Thank you WarrenKundis. In the meantime I knew from Odiot that the name of the flatware is "Vannes", but they couldn't tell me the name of the family. Your hint "Croy" did not lead me to a result.
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Re: Crest on Odiot Flatware 1906-1956

Postby nobilityhouse » Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:30 pm

I believe these are the arms of RIQUETTI, the marquis de Mirabeau, and the motto is actually Juvat Pietas. Kind regards.

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Re: Crest on Odiot Flatware 1906-1956

Postby silverfan » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:59 am

Hallo nobilityhouse, thank you very much. I found the arms of Riqueti de Mirabeau in

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It is the heraldic right part of my (I suppose) Allianzwappen. In the net I only got information about Mirabeau, politician during the French revolution, nothing about descendants. There must have been somebody in the first half of the 20th century, because my flatware is marked in that time. Remains the question of the second coat of arms.
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Re: Crest on Odiot Flatware 1906-1956

Postby nobilityhouse » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:05 pm

I have been stymied in my quest for the wife's half of this coat of arms, as seen on the viewer's right. The shield is Or (gold) a eagle displayed Sable (black). That is quite common and most of the texts are in French. Kind regards.


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