Fine Silver Knives MY Mark Origin?

[Dannd]

Hello,

I have scoured the website looking for this mark but have come up dry so I thought I would ask here to see if anyone could provide some information. I am assuming these are bread/butter knives (if not please let me know as the different shape of them threw me off) and they are marked both with what appears to be a "MY" mark joined on one side and a 100 on the other. They acid test as bright red (fine silver - which would explain the 100) but the makers mark still eludes me. I wasnt certain where they are from so I posted them in the general European silver area (as they do not have American or English hallmarks). I have a suspicion they may be SE Asian (Thailand?) although I think its the gold plating and the marking font throwing me off. I have included the mark on both in case one is more clear. Thank you for your time and insight in these!





Daniel

[Francais]

They are German butter and fish or possibly fruit knives. The are plated. This page explains the 100 mark.
http://www.925-1000.com/a_platenumbers.html
I can't make out the maker's mark, but I don't know late makers anyway.
Maurice

[Dannd]

Thank you for the quick reply! After looking at the link the maker mark is definitely WMF so you are dead on with the German identification. I wonder why the acid gave a bright red color though. Thanks for your time!

Daniel

[Francais]

I don't use that type of acid test, I use one that shows no reaction with higher grades of silver, 925 or above.
But my guess is you just put the acid on top of the silver, in which case any test will say high grade silver.
To test silver one has to find some place to make a little cut, and test the metal underneath.
The finest plated silver like some French, and I guess German, silver the thickness of the plate can be significant.
I bought a pair of very fine candleabra, and had to really cut into the base very deeply.
Maurice

[huszas76]

Hello!
I think, it's german silverplate, WMF. (Württembergische Metallwarenfabrik)
See here: http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_W3.html
Best regards!
Krisztián

[Dannd]

Maurice,

I tried both tests by adding it to piece as well as a scratch test. I have a feeling the plating must be quite thick because I made a pretty significant streak and it still came back high purity. I wont bother with this again though as Id rather not damage it and now that I understand 100 isnt a purity Im confident its just thickly plated. Thank you for your information!

Krisztián,

I think your right!

Thanks everyone for your help!

D.

[Bahner]

Hello, silver plate by WMF, pattern 2200. Regards, Bahner

[Joerg]

Hi Daniel

the knive to the left with the round tip is officially a butter knive. The one to the right with the sharp tip is officially a cheese knive. I used the offical Jezler Website as a reference.
http://www.jezler.com/de/servierbesteck.html

I have a few of them at home, round and sharp tip, silver and plated. However, I consider them rather unpractical. I prefere normal knives for butter and cheese. So maybe I am a barbarian.
I recall there was a discussion over the purpose of the notch on the back. I think it was in this forum. But I can't find it anymore. As far as I recall the discussion remained inconclusive. No good reason for the notch was given.

All the best

Jörg

[DianaGaleM]

For the "last word" here..

These images are from page 32 of WMF's 1938 Bestecke katalog:


Based on the scale, the #2242k set would be about 17 cm in length (6-¼"), the #2242 set about 19 cm (7-½").

Modell 2200 was the only pattern in the katalog to have all pieces figured. The other patterns were represented by only the three main place pieces.