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maxa
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antique cresset

Postby maxa » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:34 am

Hello everyone,
I have this old antique cresset and I think its Russian. It have two hallmarks: first one is orthodox church and i think that other one is letter "k"
Can someone help me to determine maker or when is this made? Thank you very much. If I made some mistakes posting this topic,please tell me I will correct it immediately. I am new here :)
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Re: antique cresset

Postby dognose » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:51 am

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

It's a great piece. It appears to me to be from Budapest, hopefully one of the other members can tell us more.

Trev.

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Re: antique cresset

Postby maxa » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:49 pm

Hi Trev,
Thank you very much.
I looked, as you said, in Budapest hallmarks but I didn't saw cross on the top of the church like on mine.
What do you think "K" stands for?
thanks again on your time
Alexander

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Re: antique cresset

Postby huszas76 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:36 am

Hello!
This mark is from Pest. The maker is Johannes Krieck (I.K). This time in the Pest silversmith guild used date letter to determin the year or years . This is what you can see in the middle, originally presumably was a "P" or a "q".
When I reach my sources, I can talk to you more about Krieck. (As I remember, he died in the '30-s)
Budapest became in 1873, when Pest, Buda and Óbuda united. From 1867 was the Diana head marks in useful, and the guilds ceased.
Best regards!
Krisztián

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Re: antique cresset

Postby maxa » Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:57 pm

Hello,
Thank you very much Krisztián. This helps me a lot.
Now I now in which direction to continue my research.
Thank you again and when you reach your sources I will be pleased to hear more about Krieck.
All the best
Alexander

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Re: antique cresset

Postby huszas76 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:40 am

Hi!
Johannes Krieck was a honoured member of the silversmiths guild in Pest.
The sources mentioning him from 1806-1846.
From 1816 to 1830 he was the assay master of the guild, from 1830. dec. 12. to 1832. dec. 8. he was the vice master of the guild.
His workshop in 1839 was in the Herrengasse, in 1846 in the Schlangengasse.
His prentices:
Rapel József, Teuchtman József, Bányai Zsigmond, Fazekas Gábor.

P. Brestyánszky Ilona: A pest-budai ötvösség. 276-277.

We know his 2 different maker mark, but all of them is similar, the difference is on the size.
Best regards!
Krisztián

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Re: antique cresset

Postby maxa » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:53 am

Thank you very much. You really helped me to finally find what I have.
All the best
Aleksandar


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