need help with these marks

[mach1948]

Hi, i have no idea what or who these marks are for/
Please help with mark/maker
Where is this hallmark from?





Thank you in advance for any help.
Mariusz

[dognose]

Hi Mariusz,

Rehfues & Cie. of Bern.

See: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=937

and viewtopic.php?f=24&t=35489&p=93767#p93767

Trev.

[mach1948]

Thank you very much in advance.
Paste the company's brand Rehfues & Cie in my opinion it is not the brand



Kind regards,
Mariusz

[mach1948]

Marc Rosenberg in 4 volume Switzerland Bern gives the signature bear in the oval was used in 16 and 17 wieku.Moim do not think it is the subject of this period

[mach1948]

Marc Rosenberg in 4 volume Switzerland Bern gives the signature bear in the oval was used in 16 and 17
century.In my opinion do not think it is the subject of this period

[mach1948]

In my opinion this signature goldsmith belongs to George Adam Rehfues 1830
and the other is a pseudohallmark.Would it be possible to determine the time when it was created?



Thank you very much in advance.
Mariusz

[Joerg]

Dear Mariuz

I am not so sure what you want to say with your additional post, but I assume you ask for the date. The item from your first post dates from around 1850. Werkstatt Rehfues (Rehfues Workshop) used this combination of marks then.
See the book "Weltliches Silber 2", item no. 65 with exactly the same marks.
The bears head was used in this period by most silversmith in Berne, while the walking bear was rarely used.
Walking bears were common on silver from Berne until around 1820. Later only Pochon and here Rehfues continued to use it.
Keep in mind the coat of arms from Berne:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wappen_Bern_matt.svg

Regards

Jörg

[mach1948]

Dear Jörg
I thank you verry much for your help!
Best regards,
Mariusz