Tea pot with dragon's scale - help identify the marks

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luki-g
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Tea pot with dragon's scale - help identify the marks

Postby luki-g » Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:53 pm

Dear Forum Users,
I have a problem with identification of these marks.
I bought it without seeing the marks as an 'English tea pot' but it seems to me that the lion's head doesn't make it made in London. I can not work out the mark on the left.
Letters R and F under crown make me think of the Netherlands but I wasn't able to find anything comparable.

On the other hand design makes me think of mid XIX C and some Nordic country...

Does it ring any bells for you?

I will be grateful for your advice!


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https://grabekwlublinie.artsaas.pl/crm/saas/grabekwlublinie/images/a72463f7-3fa5-7a78-a565-525be3c6259c/ebb7e355-6b13-f421-d11c-527c0a680a51/original.jpg

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oel
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Re: Tea pot with dragon's scale - help identify the marks

Postby oel » Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:53 pm

Hi welcome to the forum,

Do not believe it to be Dutch and the 'lion's head 'to me looks more like the full face of a Greek mythological figure. At first thought I would say pseudo/fake/Hanau marks but I will move you to the general European section for perhaps some better replies.

Oel.

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Re: Tea pot with dragon's scale - help identify the marks

Postby blakstone » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:19 pm

It's Swiss, from the workshop of Georg Adam Rehfues (1784-1858; Master 1808) and his son Philipp Rudolf Rehfues (1820-1866) of Bern. The marks aren't any sort of official marks, but probably had some significance to Rehfues. The leftmost mark is (I think) supposed to be a bear's head (a bear being the symbol of Bern) and the "R" probably stands for "Rehfues". The mid-19th century date is spot-on.

Hope this helps!

Ref: Hanspeter Lanz, Weltliches Silber 2: Katalog der Sammlung des Schweizerischen Landesmuseums Zürich (Zürich: Schweizerisches Landesmuseums, 2001), pp. 425-428.

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Re: Tea pot with dragon's scale - help identify the marks

Postby luki-g » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:03 am

Dear Blackstone,
Thank you so much! I knew my intuitions are not precise and now I know why - I never saw a piece of a Swiss silver mark before :)

Once again many thanks!

Best regards,
Łukasz


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