Identify flatware - British?

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mtnears
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Identify flatware - British?

Postby mtnears » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:35 am

I'm a little stuck searching through this stuff, I can see the makers marks in some case but with that it's not always easy to search to find what country it is from. So I'll post a few pics of the flatware in hopes someone here can help me identify, thanks!

http://www.pauley.org/flatware1.JPG
http://www.pauley.org/flatware2.JPG
http://www.pauley.org/flatware3.JPG

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Re: Identify flatware - British?

Postby oel » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:14 am

Hi, welcome to the forum.

Made in French, I believe the geometric frame-shape could suggest Minerva head for assay office of perhaps Paris; 1st standard of fineness, used 1838-1973 or perhaps 1973 to date, but let us wait for other contributors who could tell about the hallmark and makers' mark. Please check the Minerva head for a number near her forehead and if there is perhaps a symbol under her chin and near her neck to indicate a regional French assay office and or date date letter. Or even better clean the mark and show us a clean and clear image of the hallmark and maker’s mark ( macro mode/tulip/daylight)
For starters see:
http://www.925-1000.com/Ffrench_menu.html
Cleaning hallmarks see:
viewtopic.php?f=34&p=89239#p89239




Oel.

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Re: Identify flatware - British?

Postby mtnears » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:49 am

Saw the images were removed. I had reduced them all to 1000 pixels in width and in total all three were about 900k, not sure which part I messed up on.

Oel, I'll try to get things cleaned up and look more, thanks for the tips to look for more.

Zilver2
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Re: Identify flatware - British?

Postby Zilver2 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:30 am

Hi,
The maker's mark is that of Hippolyte Thomas (1845-1855).
11 rue du Renard Saint-Sauveur, Paris (1)
9 rue des Enfants-Rouges, Paris (2)
Symbol : a rosebud over a star.
Successor : Thomas & Hénin, then Hénin.
The other mark is the Minnerva mark (guarantee mark) with at the reverse side the bigorne mark.
Regards.

mtnears
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Re: Identify flatware - British?

Postby mtnears » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:45 am

That was very helpful, thank you!

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Re: Identify flatware - British?

Postby silvermakersmarks » Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:11 pm

I believe that your images were probably removed because forum guidelines suggest that images should be no larger than 7 inches (18cm) wide. Yours are about 9.5 inches (24 cm) wide.

Note to moderators/administrators: would it not be more useful for the maximum width to be quoted in pixels?

Phil

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Re: Identify flatware - British?

Postby mtnears » Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:34 pm

Ahh, I thought I read a pixel limit but I'm not seeing it now. Not sure where I saw that. No worries, just wanted to be sure I was following the rules!


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