GOTHIC POSSIBLE "JD" MAKERS MARK ON SALT SPOON

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GOTHIC POSSIBLE "JD" MAKERS MARK ON SALT SPOON

Postby Essexboy Fisher » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:16 pm

Hello,I have just acquired a a few electroplated "salt" type spoons that I believed I was familiar with the makers marks for. The spoon I was most confident about was the one shown below with it's "marks" in the inset photo.
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I had done a quick check with my lens when buying, thinking to myself "a mark with a "JD". That’s "Deakin" isn't it or is it "Dixon" or Deykin". I'll sort it when I check. I checked 1000-925 silverplate marks and also "Silvercollection" plate marks but I found no set of marks to correspond with mine.
The JD in the image is in gothic script and "James Deakin" marks do not appear to have gothic lettering.
James Dixon spoons do have gothic lettering but there is no "bugle" figural mark on my spoon though I realise the "bugle" was not used in "Dixon's" earliest plating period. Also on my spoon the "J" and "D" are in a joint mark and this is not the case in the in the "Dixon" marks I have viewed.
So what about "Deykin"? It is not "Deykin&Harrison" as "D" is not the first letter in the mark but there is a figural mark on the spoon a bit like a boat. Deykin have a boat like mark sometimes described as a gondola but it differs from the mark in my photo. There was a Deykin and Sons company early so could it be their mark? Or perhaps I've mis-interpreted the gothic script and its letters are other than "JD". I didn't find an "SD" electroplating company!
Are there any views out in the Forum to give me the some guidance out of this confusion?
Fishless.

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Re: GOTHIC POSSIBLE "JD" MAKERS MARK ON SALT SPOON

Postby dognose » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:47 pm

Hi Fishless,

I guess it has to be remembered that as a vast majority of plater's marks were unregistered, they could chop and change them at will. Different marks for different lines, different marks for pieces with difficult stamping space, different marks for export, town and country trade, work supplied to others, etc. a whole host of different marks for a whole host of uses and reasons. Some ran for years, some perhaps days. If one reputable company complained to another reputable company that their new marks were a bit similar to their existing ones, then probably yet another change was on the cards. When taken across the whole industry, there were thousands of marks, with probably a majority unrecorded to this very day, so there are always new examples to be found.

From memory, I think it was Hutton's that at one point modernised their marks and then saw their country trade plummet to such a degree that that they recalled their old marks specifically for the country trade, whilst retaining the new marks for the town trade. This of course had a lot to do with the still high rate of illiteracy at the time. With this in mind, I wonder if your example is that of a smaller firm cashing in on Deykin's 'Gondola' mark.

Trev.

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Re: GOTHIC POSSIBLE "JD" MAKERS MARK ON SALT SPOON

Postby Essexboy Fisher » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:00 pm

Thank you Dognose for adding more insight on the "industry" but none the less giving me more disappointment.
Yours
Fishless


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