Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?

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Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?

Postby Francais » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:37 pm

This is a coat of arms from a piece of Augsburg silver. So it is probably a German Bishop, or Cardinal. Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?

Postby Francais » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:31 am

Thanks to the people on Heraldik site, this is he coat of arms of the Abbot of Marchtal, who in 1790 was Paulus Schmid.
Maurice

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Re: Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?

Postby dognose » Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:17 pm

Hi Maurice,

Many thanks for taking the time to update the topic. It's very much appreciated.

Trev.

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Re: Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?

Postby Francais » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:32 pm

Although I didn't get this corroborated by the people at Heraldrik

I have figured out the meaning of PAZM it is Paulus Abbot at Marchtal.
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Re: Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?

Postby Joerg » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:49 pm

Hi Maurice

I was following up your posts on the "Heraldik-im-Netz.de" site.
On your respond you asked:
So I was wondering if P = Paulus A= Abt Z= ? M = Marchtal.
Would this be possible, and any idea what Z stands for?

Did you already get an answer for the "Z" question?
It stands for "zu", German for "at"

Kind regards

Jörg

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Re: Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?

Postby Francais » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:04 pm

Hi,
I posted two religious pieces, in one I asked, but no one answered, then I answered it myself in the other. I thought of Zu but thought it would be odd to include a preposition in a title, and even thought it might refer to Zircarie Schwaben. Then I found the title of the Abbess of Rottenmunster was Abtisin zu Rottenmunster. So in fact they used Zu in the title. It seems that in German you are more likely to use all words in an abbreviation, whereas in English it is less common.
I appreciate the help, but quite honestly I feel better about my having figured it out for myself.
Thanks,
Maurice


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