What-is-it question CLXXXXV

[dognose]

What-is-it question CLXXXXV

A mystery item from 1886:

On the left for ladies, and on the right for gentlemen.




Any thoughts?

Trev.

[JLDoggett]

If you had posted both pictures and said they were used by ladies, I might have thought it was for catching the skirt train when dancing... However! I will go real wild and suggest it is a hat hanging device, to be slipped over the brim to allow it to hang on a hook. Makes more sense than men needing to catch up their train hems in the 1880's.

[dognose]

Hi Jim,

No, not a hat hanging device, however, although it may give the game away, you were on the right track with the earlier part of your answer.

Trev.

[oel]

Hi All,

Perhaps a Pencil & Dance Card holder (for de lady's a Chatelaine Clip Carnet de Bal Notebook Dance Card & pencil holder)?


Oel

[dognose]

Hi Oel,

Yes, you've nailed it. It's a Ball Programme Holder and Marker, patented by Frederick William Powell of 23, Great Sutton Street, Clerkenwell, London in 1886.


Fredk. Wm. Powell - London - 1886

Trev.

[dragonflywink]

When first looking at this, wondered for a moment if it was small press-style check-protector...and from the description, sounds like the marker does stamp or press the name or initials into a dance card rather than holding an "old-fashioned pencil" (or am I not understanding correctly?).

~Cheryl

[oel]

Hi Cheryl,

Yes, you're right no pencil needed, it is a marker.

Oel.

[dragonflywink]

Hunh, would love to see one and try it out; wondering how personalization was offered with a 24 hour turn-around - tiny type that set in? I have little luck searching British patents, but perhaps someone has one and can show it...

~Cheryl