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York Serving Spoons with Town Mark

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:21 am
by rhodrit
Hello all,
Two celebrations today, I turn 30 and i've been collecting spoons and hallmarks for exactly one Year!
Birthday/Spoon Anniversary Present to myself below!

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Pair of York Serving Spoons - 1835 partnership of James Barber and William North

Jacksons shows for this year a change in the town mark to the cross without the surround like the first mark but im wondering if the punch just wasnt pushed down enough on the examples he saw as the second spoon seems to have the surround! Obviously both would be done with the same punch?
Also If anybody has any info on this Partnership that would be greatfully received!

Kind Regards,
Rhodri

Re: York Serving Spoons with Town Mark

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:57 am
by dognose
Hi Rhodri,

Happy birthday!

Do these spoons by any chance have an engraving of a 'Tudor Rose' on the handle?

Trev.

Re: York Serving Spoons with Town Mark

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:00 pm
by rhodrit
They do Trev, How did you Know?

Re: York Serving Spoons with Town Mark

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:16 pm
by dognose
Hi Rhodri,

It's unusual to find the York town mark on flatware, but Barber & North were commissioned by the Yorkshire Club for many pieces of flatware around this time, the pieces were engraved with the 'Tudor Rose', and were struck, no doubt at the request of the Yorkshire Club, with the rarely seen town mark.

The Yorkshire Club's flatware was sold at Christie's on the 8th October 1969.

Nice find!

Trev.

Re: York Serving Spoons with Town Mark

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:09 pm
by rhodrit
Hi Trev,
Wow thank you for the info! Your volume of knowledge is amazing! Even more excited now, i love knowing the history of things (especially when interesting like the info you have given me) u have made my birthday even better! I shall post an image of the rose engravings tommorow when i get home from York (coincidence : ) )
Kind regards,
Rhodri

Re: York Serving Spoons with Town Mark

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:07 am
by dognose
The known apprentices of Barber & North can be found here: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5&start=40

Trev.

Re: York Serving Spoons with Town Mark

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:53 pm
by rhodrit
Thanks for the apprentices info Trev. Here's an image of the tudor rose I said I would post.

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Rhodri

Re: York Serving Spoons with Town Mark

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:44 pm
by rhodrit
I also found a copy of the auction catalogue for the Christie's auction on Oct 8th 1969

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Rhodri

Re: York Serving Spoons with Town Mark

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:27 am
by dognose
Hi Rhodri,

Thanks for adding the further information. It's great to see that sometimes the history of such pieces can be tracked and makes their past so much more interesting.

Trev.

Re: York Serving Spoons with Town Mark

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:27 am
by asheland
Great thread! I admire those spoons. :-)