Russian Silver Mark Help with maker and Date please

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sdc2007
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Russian Silver Mark Help with maker and Date please

Postby sdc2007 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:08 pm

Hello, Any help or info appreciated.... Thanks a bunch. Steve

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Re: Russian Silver Mark Help with maker and Date please

Postby Ubaranda » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:10 am

Hello!
It's Polish marks of 1891-1901 years, when Poland was part of the Russian Empire. "84" is the fineness of silver in zolotnik (=875), double-headed eagle is the symbol of Warsaw, "МЗ" (in Cyrillic) - maker's mark
(I don't know him), "A" - Austro-Hungarian import mark, "E" - assay city letter of Krakow.
Best regards, Alex.

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Re: Russian Silver Mark Help with maker and Date please

Postby Qrt.S » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:45 am

It is a salt and pepper stand. However, it looks like the grip in the middle is missing as well as the glass inserts, but? Anyway about the marks. The "AV" is an Austro-Hungarian import mark used 1872-1902. AV stands for "Auslandsverkerchr" meaning foreign goods. The E in the mark indicates Cracow in Poland. The 84-mark is a Russian assaying mark used 1882-1899. Fineness 84 zolotnik i.e. .875. This mark is either Moscow, Minsk or or in this case probably Warsaw. Warsaw had its own Russian assay office under the Russian rule 1795-1918 as from 1852->. It is sometimes difficult to say with certainty what town it is. Usually the maker's mark would tell you more but there is none except for this M3* mark that I cannot identify for the moment. It is not a Russian maker's mark but not either a Polish mark, at least not from Warsaw. It is possible that this mark is punched over the original maker's mark, but I'm not sure.

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Re: Russian Silver Mark Help with maker and Date please

Postby sdc2007 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:49 am

Thank you very much.... Not sure is you see but the AV has a small E to the left of the A, I was sure this was a Russian makers mark? Thanks Steve

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Re: Russian Silver Mark Help with maker and Date please

Postby sdc2007 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:03 am

sdc2007 wrote:Thank you very much.... Not sure is you see but the AV has a small E to the left of the A, I was sure this was a Russian makers mark? Thanks Steve


opps over read that part Thanks

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Re: Russian Silver Mark Help with maker and Date please

Postby AG2012 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:21 pm

Hi,
Excellent! Finally agreed there was Russian silver exported to Austria- Hungary.Namely,there was a statement here not a single genuine piece of Russian silver has ever been seen with Austrian import marks.And everything is genuine in these pieces, beyond any doubt.
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