Vienna Silversmith?

[silverfan]

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Austrian knife, Diana with 3 and A for Vienna and STERN for maker or retailer? Maker's mark.
Does anybody know the maker and some dates?
Thanks in advance silverfan

[dognose]

Hi Silverfan,

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Trev.

[Theoderich]

hope it helps



the other mark loooks like Josef Carl Klinkosch

[dognose]

Thank you Theo.

It is indeed J.C. Klinkosch:



Trev.

[silverfan]

Thank you for the information and Theoderich for uplöading my photos.
Does anybody know who is STERN? For dating the item it would be interesting since when the helmet became mark of Klinkosch. He became knight in 1879.
Regards silverfan

[zilverik]

STERN: Probably Michael Stern, a silversmith who also participated in the partnership company "Triesch Stern & Duschnitz" with Josef Triesch (foundation 1857, dissolution 1862).

Regards,

Zilverik

[zilverik]

Could also be the jewelers mark "STERN": Wiener Gold und Silberschmiede und ihre punzen, 1867-1922, Neuwirth, Lexicon II, page 232.

Regards,

Zilverik

[silverfan]

Thank you very much, Zilverik.
So you think the jeweller Stern and Michael Stern are not the same person!?
Regards silverfan

[zilverik]

Hi silverfan,

I count 16 Stern's in Neuwirth's book. Silversmiths, factories and retailers/juwelers. Come to think of it, the name STERN on your knife is probably more the retailers/juwelers name than the name of the silversmith. The 16 names are sometimes mentioned that it is clearly a silversmith or a retailer, sometimes just the names without a clear specification of their business. Looking at the "clear" retailers/juwelers, I count 4 of them in the period 1867-1922 with the dates they where in business):
Stern, Heinrich Michael (1914, moved in 1922 to another address)
Stern, Josef (1875 - 1903)
Stern, Leon (1895 - 1922)
Stern, Moritz (1908 -1922)

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Zilverik

[Bahner]

Hello, my guess would be Josef Stern. His brother joined the firm which continued to existed after 1903 under the name of J. Stern und Bruder on Rothenturmstrasse in the expensive I. Bezirk (district) of Vienna. The brothers also had a second company on Rothenturmstrasse which acted as retailer only. Just a gut feeling, but I think - it's them. Regards, Bahner