Silverbox with unknown dutch ? mark

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Johannes
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Silverbox with unknown dutch ? mark

Postby Johannes » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:39 am

Hello,
i have got a wonderful silverbox, i guess its dutch ? can somebody help to identify the marks ?
thank you very much
Johannes
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oel
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Re: Silverbox with unknown dutch ? mark

Postby oel » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:27 am

Hi welcome to the forum,

Your image shows rubbed marks; Dutch lion passant above 2 for silver alloy containing 83.3% pure silver, this fineness mark used 1814-1953 and two other very rubbed marks, what I believe to be pseudo marks, to give the box the antique look and pretend to be made in the time of the Dutch Guilds; the very rubbed Crowned Andreas crosses, the city Guild mark of Amsterdam.
If you examine your box carefully you probably will find a Dutch date letter and the Minerva head or Assay Office mark and hopefully a proper Dutch makers’ mark. The marks could be spread over the complete box and be tinny or a little ‘lost’ in the decorations.

The box could be made by Fa.(Firm) H. Hooijkaas 1874-2008; Zilverfabriek Schoonhoven
Look carefully at the pseudo marks used by Hooijkaas/Hovingh

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Best,

Oel.

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Re: Silverbox with unknown dutch ? mark

Postby Johannes » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:49 am

hello,
you are right. after carefull search i found the minerva mark but i can not find a date mark.
thanks a lot
johannes

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Re: Silverbox with unknown dutch ? mark

Postby oel » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:35 am

Hi,

There must be a date letter hidden somewhere in the decoration and probably a little makers' mark.
Can you check the Minerva head and figure out the regional assay office indication letter in the Minerva’s helmet? My guess you probably will find the letter M in its helmet for the city of Schoonhoven but.....

Oel.

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Re: Silverbox with unknown dutch ? mark

Postby Johannes » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:15 am

hi,
i send a picture of the minerva ? mark, i searching for more marks at the box. i hope the foto is helpfull
best regards
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Re: Silverbox with unknown dutch ? mark

Postby oel » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:58 am

Hi Johannes,

Thanks for the Minerva head but unfortunately the regional assay office letter does not show/unreadable.

Oel


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