PLEASE HELP WITH THESE MARKS

[prezes_krkk]

Hello

I need help with these marks .....

http://i.imgur.com/nieP7.jpg"

http://i.imgur.com/K9Z0p.jpg"

Thank You

[oel]

Hi,

Looking at the marks my gut feeling says; pseudo marks and perhaps Dutch or German, made around early 20th century or perhaps even later.

Oel