Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

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lesrose
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Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby lesrose » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:52 pm

I've posted photos on http://s1161.photobucket.com/albums/q503/lesrose/ hope yo can see them.

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Re: Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby JBA » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:29 pm

It's a Georgian beer jug, dated 1741- a lovely piece! Unfortunately someone has cut the handle and inserted insulators so that it can be used for hot liquids, but it is still a very nice thing!

If you could get a better image of the central mark I'd be able to find a maker for you. As it is, I can't really make it out.

If you can't get a better mark, can you at least read the letters? It looks like it might be two sets of initials, denoting a partnership.

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Re: Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby lesrose » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:54 pm

I've just added some more photos of the marks. It looks like it could be H S or F S. http://s1161.photobucket.com/albums/q503/lesrose/

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Re: Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby lesrose » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:15 pm

By the way, thank you for the information. It is truly helpful and greatly appreciated. I was so excited by your identification I momentarily lost my manners.

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Re: Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby lesrose » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:18 pm

JBA wrote:It's a Georgian beer jug, dated 1741- a lovely piece! Unfortunately someone has cut the handle and inserted insulators so that it can be used for hot liquids, but it is still a very nice thing!

If you could get a better image of the central mark I'd be able to find a maker for you. As it is, I can't really make it out.

If you can't get a better mark, can you at least read the letters? It looks like it might be two sets of initials, denoting a partnership.


It could be WS across the bottom and possibly EB sideways across the top.

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Re: Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby oel » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:24 pm

Hi,

Welcome to the forum.

F.S under a Crown for; Francis Spilsbury I dates seen 1739..1741
(registered Jun 1739)

Oel

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Re: Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby lesrose » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:44 pm

I believe your right. Thank you for the help. It's amazing to find I'm holding something so handsome made over 250 years ago.

oel wrote:Hi,

Welcome to the forum.

F.S under a Crown for; Francis Spilsbury I dates seen 1739..1741
(registered Jun 1739)

Oel

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Re: Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby JBA » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:14 am

Good maker too!

It's prohibited to discuss value on this forum, but I feel it's my responsibility to tell you that you should probably get a professional valuation for insurance purposes. It's quite a valuable thing, despite the cut handles. Email a picture to Bonhams silver department for a rough idea. I'm not sure where in the world you are, but local auction houses, particularly outside the UK, can be quite ignorant about such things.

Congratulations!

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Re: Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby lesrose » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:25 pm

I'm in the US and thank you for your help and advise. I was wondering do you know the meaning / purpose of the woman on the crown etched on the front of the piece?

JBA wrote:Good maker too!

It's prohibited to discuss value on this forum, but I feel it's my responsibility to tell you that you should probably get a professional valuation for insurance purposes. It's quite a valuable thing, despite the cut handles. Email a picture to Bonhams silver department for a rough idea. I'm not sure where in the world you are, but local auction houses, particularly outside the UK, can be quite ignorant about such things.

Congratulations!

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Re: Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby oel » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:04 pm


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Re: Silver water pitcher with women on crown imprint

Postby lesrose » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:35 pm

Very nice, Thank you so much.

oel wrote:Family Crest. Check out;

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Oel


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