I need help in dating this Roberts & Belk spoon

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I need help in dating this Roberts & Belk spoon

Postby davidtheeighth » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:19 am

I have a Roberts and Belkin spoon. The attached photos show that it is silver plate but I can't find its date. The R & B logo doesn't seem to match any shown on the internet. For example, my letter 'B' doesn't match those shown. My spoon also has a patent number and again, I can't find anything similar for Roberts & Belk plated silver. So I'm looking for a date for this spoon. I would also like to know what kind of spoon it is.
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Re: I need help in dating this Roberts & Belk spoon

Postby agphile » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:31 am

Jam or honey spoon designed to clip on the rim of the pot so that the handle doesn't sink into its sticky contemts, but I can't help with the date.

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Re: I need help in dating this Roberts & Belk spoon

Postby davidtheeighth » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:09 am

Dear agphile

Thanks for your very prompt response. Much appreciated.
David

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Re: I need help in dating this Roberts & Belk spoon

Postby 2209patrick » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:00 pm

Hello.

I believe you have an early set of Roberts & Belk silverplate marks.
On June 30, 1863 the partnership of Roberts & Briggs was dissolved.
By February 1864 Samuel Roberts had entered into a partnership with Charles Belk.
Became "Ltd." in 1901.
Sold to C.J. Vander in 1961.

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http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Roberts_and_Belk

Pat.

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Re: I need help in dating this Roberts & Belk spoon

Postby davidtheeighth » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:09 pm

Dear Pat
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my query.
The "R&B" mark on my spoon matches the Samuel Roberts & Charles Belk mark you sent me for "Sheffield 1863....." And because my spoon also has a "Patent No", which is also quite rare, I think I would be in order in dating my spoon "1865 approx." I hope you are in agreement.
Thanks once again
David

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Re: I need help in dating this Roberts & Belk spoon

Postby 2209patrick » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:01 pm

You're welcome David.

I don't know how long Roberts & Belk used the oval mark.
Seldom see it, so I think it's very early.

Pat.

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Re: I need help in dating this Roberts & Belk spoon

Postby davidtheeighth » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:03 pm

Thanks again, Pat
Regards
David

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Re: I need help in dating this Roberts & Belk spoon

Postby agphile » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:33 pm

I think the R&B mark in question must have remained in use, even if rare. The patent number on the spoon was issued in 1938 so the spoon must be mid 20th century. Its style is also more in accordance with that sort of date.

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Re: I need help in dating this Roberts & Belk spoon

Postby davidtheeighth » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:15 pm

Dear agphile
Thanks for the additional information. Much appreciated.
Kindest regards
David


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