CONDUCTOR'S BATON OR????I NEED HELP+HALLMARKS??

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CONDUCTOR'S BATON OR????I NEED HELP+HALLMARKS??

Postby dinozaur2001 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:18 am

Hello to everyone .
I found a very wonderful piece on a fleamarket and I dont know what it is.A friend told me that maybe it is a ??? Conductors baton ??? with the top wood piece missing or an ??? old school teaching pointer ???.
Please help me with advice on what it might be.The second BIG question are the hallmarks:there is a clear '' SM '' mark very visible-I think its the makers mark-under this mark there is another,much more worn-out mark wich I dont know what it resembles.I tryed to find it on this site and some others but I had no luck.I cant even tell wich way I should read it.
The pice is hollow.
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Re: CONDUCTOR'S BATON OR????I NEED HELP+HALLMARKS??

Postby dognose » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:45 pm

Hi,

Your item is likely to be a Torah Pointer, but missing its pointed hand finial.

Trev.

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Re: CONDUCTOR'S BATON OR????I NEED HELP+HALLMARKS??

Postby dinozaur2001 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:28 am

hello
and thanks for your answer,i search on de internet and on a torah pointer ,human figures are forbiden.
all the best
stefan
P.S. if you know something about the hallmarks ,i would apreciate it.

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Re: CONDUCTOR'S BATON OR????I NEED HELP+HALLMARKS??

Postby zilverik » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:47 am

Hi,

Just a guess. It could be Dutch. SM could be Willem Silleman, Amsterdam. Working from 1780 till 1827. Known as a big silver worker, especially snaps. In 1793 he had to change his mastermark because of fraud.

Regards,

Zilverik

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Re: CONDUCTOR'S BATON OR????I NEED HELP+HALLMARKS??

Postby dinozaur2001 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:52 pm

many thanks about the hallmarks-you are right about the ,,SM'' ,it is indeed Willem Silleman, from Amsterdam(again-manymany thanks).
is it too much to ask what would be the purpouse of the baton???Thank you.

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Re: CONDUCTOR'S BATON OR????I NEED HELP+HALLMARKS??

Postby zilverik » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:34 pm

Hi,

An Amsterdam Torah Pointer looks like a good guess, but I don't know Judaica that well.

Regards,

Zilverik


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