The Russian spoons

[Dad]

Hi, Zolotnik.

Very nice collection. Wonderful subjects and photo!
I have some questions, but I will not ask )))
I liked your Ovchinnikov. It is possible to see a spoon Faberge in the full size?

Best Reg..

[asti]

Yes Zolotnik ,now I'm very close to make a heart stroke...

The speechless,
Asti

[Zolotnik]

Hi Dad -

the F-spoons are without pattern and plane, only kannelures at the shaft. Moscow branche mostly was simple - different customers than in St. Petersburg :-)

Hi asti -

no reason to get a stroke - I have seen a "real" spoon collection ......it took me several days to get out of my depression!

Thanks all for the compliments and unasked questions....

Regards
Zolotnik

[Qrt.S]

Because I'm on the move I didn't pay any attention to the maker (MK) sorry about that but you are right Zolotnik. It is something strange about this spoon, especially the maker. It is absolutely impossible that this small figures assaying marks could have been used before the latter half of 1898. The assaying marks from Postnikova is a picture only and does not show the differences in this left looking kokshnik tthat have tree variations. I will revert to this later, when I'm back...

MK cannot be Mihail Karpinskij but I have no sources available.

In addition, the better picture reveals that the assayer is Ivan Lebedkin in Moscow and not Ljapunov in StP. In 1898 Lebedkin was supposed to be in Moscow and has not been anywhere else. There are, however, some unclarity about Lebedkin's working period.

[Qrt.S]

Sorry didn't notice Dad's post, it is Karpinskij, wrong years in Postnikova.

[Zolotnik]

Hi Qrt.s -

like so often, I do not understand what you really want to say - Dad already gave the right answers!
Do not repeat everything and avoid too much sun!

Regards
Zolotnik

[Zolotnik]

That is what I call an evolution......from Imperial Russia to Soviet Union to Russia....what is next??


Imperial Russia (silver)



Soviet Union (aluminium)



Russia (plastic)



Regards
Zolotnik

[asti]

Dear Zolotnik,
This is an expression of globalization and mass production. From silver to plastic, I see it more as an involution than an evolution ...

I also found a good example of how truly beautiful spoon was destroyed.


With a "nice" deep stroked inventory number. I wonder witch army could use something like this ...


Regards,
Asti

[asti]

Hi,
And the biggest (105 gr.) and also the most simple one... For comparison I put a normal tea spoon beside it.







Regards,
asti

[piette]

Hello all,
I can't compete with Zolotnik or Asti, but here are my two cents!

Cloisonne & Champleve enamel tea spoon by Pyotr Milyukov, Moscow 1882-1898.


Niello decorated tea spoon depicting The Spasskaya Tower in Moscow by D. P. Nikitin, Moscow 1899-1908.


Plain silver tea spoon with twisted handle by Unknown Master НВМ, Moscow 1908-1917.


Hopefully with time my two cents will grow into three cents, then four! :-)

Regards,
Piette

[Zolotnik]

Hi Piette -

nice beginning of a future spoon collection!

Regards
Zolotnik

[asti]

Yes Piette,two cents will grow into three cents, then five hundred and maybe a thousand...
The secret is to take it easy, no rush.

Regards,
Asti

[Zolotnik]

Hi all -

last but not least a wooden (Karelian birch)/ cloisonné spoon:









Regards
Zolotnik

[asti]

Hi all,
Was broken, repaired and is in a pitiful state. But looks like from the 18th century ...



Regards,
Asti

[Zolotnik]

Hi all -

two salad sets from our friend КФ, one for the richer, one for the poorer :-)......







Regards
Zolotnik

[asti]

Hi all,
Some more Russian spoons…

Two arrow spoons,


A coin souvenir and a niello spoon,




And Soviet Union enamels


Regards,
Asti

[Zolotnik]

Hi all -

here is a new find from Equist Carl Gustav 1830-1868, St. Petersburg. Stray spoon for sugar, handle in Trompe-l´oeil technique.





Just to remember the already shown objects from him:





Regards
Zolotnik

[asti]

Hi all,

A Gustav Klingert enamel cloisonne spoon







Regards,
Asti

[piette]

Hello Asti,
Forgive me if I am wrong, but your Klingert spoon looks a little dubious to me. Klingert was a great master known for his excellent enamelling work and beautiful designs - he almost always used 6-8 different colours of enamel on his objects in contrast to the use of 4-5 colours on your shown object.
I know that Zolotnik has many examples of Klingert's work so I am sure he will be able to add to what I have said.
Kind Regards,
Piette

[asti]

Hi Piette

While I had the opportunity to study carefully some “nice” GK fakes, even with 6-7 colors.
In connection with this spoon, indeed we have only 5 colors, but what you can expect to find on a small coffee spoon?

I’m hundred percent sure ...

Regards,
Asti