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How To?

Postby nigel le sueur » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:54 am

Can anybody please give me advice the best way to put these silver handles back on the tangs?
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Re: How To?

Postby dognose » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:07 am

Hi Nigel,

This should help: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=6623&p=13810

Regards Trev.

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Re: How To?

Postby nigel le sueur » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:33 am

Hi Trev
Thanks for the quick reply and link
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Re: How To?

Postby davesays » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:29 pm

Interesting comments about loose tangs in handles. The "glue" would have been cutlers wax made of various formulations of resin and other materials. If a hole was made in the loading and filled with an inert glue there would be big problems the next person to deal with a loose handle. I estimate I have unloaded and reloaded at least 10,000 handles over various sorts over the last 45 years. The biggest problems have been with so called repairs of the following sort. Handles unloaded and filled with Plaster Of Paris, sulpher, road pitch or glue. Whilst it is possible occasionally to reset with boiling water more often than not a complete unload is called for. This allows for any restoration to handles prior to reloading with fresh material. Suppose that unbeknown to the silversmith carrying out the work an attempt had been made to use Araldite or other permanent glue. Warming the handle to very slowly and carefully to empty the 2 or 3 hundred year old loading would become even more dangerous than ever. A plug of hard glue in the mouth and hot pitch below could end in an explosion splitting the handle and more importantly damaging the silversmith. New trousers are easy to get but new eyes more difficult! Davesays

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Re: How To?

Postby dognose » Mon May 02, 2011 1:00 pm

Hi Davesays,

You raise some good points. Can you give us a step by step guide as to the best method of carrying out such a repair?

Regards Trev.

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Re: How To?

Postby davesays » Tue May 03, 2011 4:29 am

Trev, Many thanks for suggesting approaches to handle repairs. Rather than give what could be, literally, a blow by blow account of the process I would urge caution to forum members and others when it come to unloading handles in general. "Go to a professional", well he would say that wouldn't he! A "proper" job could be just pushing loose blades back into softened loading. A dangerous procedure if gripping the blade or tines . Unloading even non Araldited handles is also a potentially dangerous operation as mentioned before. Old loading can deteriorate over time. Old steel blades have tangs prone to rusting which can complicate the extraction process even more. Sooner or later new loading is called for even if the intention is to replace with stainless blades. Of course do- it- yourself but I would suggest that if only from a health and safety angle let someone else do it .
p.s Forgot to mention the dangerous fumes generated during removal of old pitch and the risk of fire or explosion! davesays


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