Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

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excalibur1661
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Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Postby excalibur1661 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:10 pm

Hello,

I have this Georgian cream jug with maker's mark 'AB' (please see the attached pictures). The on-line resouces have 'AB" in conjunction with 'PB'. I was wondering if you are familiar with any instances of Anne Bateman marking on her own, or could this be the mark of another maker that I can not locate.

Thank you for your expert opinion as always.

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Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Postby techsol » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:10 pm

The duty mark doesn't look right to me, I wonder if it's a colonial piece.

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Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Postby buckler » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:47 pm

Too late for Ann Bickerton

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Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Postby dognose » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:04 pm

Hi,

It's Peter and Ann Bateman, the mark has been partialy off struck and then followed by two hundred years of polishing, but you can just still make out the base of the 'P' above the 'A'.

The production of creamers was a big part of the output of the Bateman workshops.

Trev.

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Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Postby nigel le sueur » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:35 am

Trev
Well spotted
Nigel

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Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Postby SilverSurfer » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:01 pm

For whatever reason, the PB/AB and PB/AB/WB stamps seem to be struck off-axis more often than not, from what I've seen. Almost rare to see on deeply and fully struck. I wonder why.

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Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Postby agphile » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:53 am

I suppose that on a deeper punch with one set of initials above another the effect of not striking it vertically would be magnified. And in a workshop with a large output there might not have been quite the same care over each strike.

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Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Postby excalibur1661 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:50 pm

dognose wrote:Hi,

It's Peter and Ann Bateman, the mark has been partialy off struck and then followed by two hundred years of polishing, but you can just still make out the base of the 'P' above the 'A'.

The production of creamers was a big part of the output of the Bateman workshops.

Trev.

Hi,

What a brilliant and well-informed answer. Thank you so much.

Fred.


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