I need help with this hallmark

[ovo]

Hello

I recently bought this cup of coffee, but I know nothing of these hallmarks. Someone can help me.

Thanks

[ovo]

New photo, hallmark cleaner.



Portugal ???

Oporto ???

[Funkel]

Marca do ourives do Porto Manuel Alcino de Sousa e Silva, registrada em 1902, transferida para Manuel Alcino de Sousa e Silva, Filhos, em 1911 e cancelada em 1916

Nº 2712
Marcas de Cantrastes e Ourives Portugueses
"Manuel Gonçalves Vidal"

[Qrt.S]

In English please, this forum's language is English. I'm a Finn and who would understand if I wrote my posts in Finnish? It is not forbidden to use common sense when answering questions!

[dognose]

Come, come Qrt.S, don't be so harsh, Funkel has been kind enough to answer the question. It only requires a little more work to finish the job.

Regards Trev.

Mark of the Oporto silversmith Alcino Manuel de Sousa e Silva, recorded in 1902, transferred to Manuel Alcino de Sousa e Silva (son) in 1911 and canceled in 1916

No. 2712
Marks and Goldsmith Cantr Portuguese
Manuel Gonçalves Vidal

[Funkel]

Qrt.S Siento molestarte con los idiomas, no hablo ingles lo tengo que traducir y el libro que doy la referencia esta en portugues. Demasiadas traduciones para entenderse, no? Si quieres espresarte en tu idioma yo no tengo problema, lo intentare traducir. Por esperiencia las traduciones son malas y puedo equivocar al lector. Siemto haberte molestado no era mi intención entiendo que aqui no estamos para que nos regañen sino para colaborar, se mas positiva por favor.


Qrt.S Sorry to bother with language, do not speak English I have to translate and give the reference book is in Portuguese. Too many translations to understand, right? If you want your language espresarte I have no problem, I'll try to translate. By experience the translations are bad and I can go wrong to the reader. Siemto have bothered you was not my intention to understand that we are not here to scold but to help us be more positive please.

[Hose_dk]

Qrt.S just want to assist. And language is english
For myself I dont understand one word Spanish or Potugal for that matter. If I use google translate to get spanish into english I have no cluee - what so ever -if traslation is right or useless.

My language is Danish - also not understand by anyone but me.

[ovo]

Marca do ourives do Porto Manuel Alcino de Sousa e Silva, registrada em 1902, transferida para Manuel Alcino de Sousa e Silva, Filhos, em 1911 e cancelada em 1916

Nº 2712
Marcas de Cantrastes e Ourives Portugueses
"Manuel Gonçalves Vidal"

Muchas gracias Jose Luis y perdon por no habertelas dado antes pero es que hacia mucho tiempo que no entraba al foro.


Sorry.......google traslator

Thank you very much and sorry for Jose Luis as before but did not tell you is that at long time since I entered the forum.