Need help with hallmarks

[mld]

This is a silver locket or reticule.

[dragonflywink]

Looks like someone might have soldered that ring to the crown - please see "Scent Heart" in the glossary: http://www.925-1000.com/silverglossary5.html Suspect, since it's not really jewelry, there might be better response if an administrator moved your post to the Scandinavian forum (nice job on the marks pic, BTW).

~Cheryl

[Tosten]

I suppose it is: Knud Sørensen Møller 1776 - 1663 Trondhjem, Norway
Regards Tosten

[Hose_dk]

made in month nr 5 ie May

last mark should be year.

[mld]

Looks like someone might have soldered that ring to the crown - please see "Scent Heart" in the glossary: http://www.925-1000.com/silverglossary5.html Suspect, since it's not really jewelry, there might be better response if an administrator moved your post to the Scandinavian forum (nice job on the marks pic, BTW).

~Cheryl

That is VERY helpful. Thank you!

Monta Lee

[Hose_dk]

Reply to private memo.
Torsten have given you the answers. Marks are as follows
City, month mark (tax mark), maker, silver contenth (13½ out of 16 the norwegian standard), year

or that is what I saw first. The M - I assumed it said 5 under the M. But seing closer it is more likely that it say 45 - and then it becomes 1845. In that case last mark becomes tax mark (month)
I would assume month mark to be either M over month number or the zodiakal sign. But the variant just a figure most then be the case. Could be Trondheim way of doing. My norwegian books do not cover Trondheim. Torsten can tell us.
M45 would be corresponding to the prik engravement 1846.

And get rid of the chain - not only does it look completely new - it is also a way of getting damage to the hovedvandsæg - the carrying open set up for bumbling into things.

[Hose_dk]

forgot
M then becomer wardein in Trondhiem - dont know his name.

[mld]

forgot
M then becomer wardein in Trondhiem - dont know his name.

VERY wonderful info. And yes, I'll get rid of the chain!!!!!! Good advice.
Monta Lee

[blakstone]

To sum things up:

(left to right)
Flower (the “Trondheim rose”) = city mark = Trondheim
M/45 = warden/year mark = Knud Sørensen Møller (warden 1842-1863), year 1845.
KM = maker = Knud Sørensen Møller (5 May 1776-28 May 1863) — same as the warden!
13 1/2 = fineness = 13.5/16 or .844
10 = month = October

Hope this helps!

Ref: Thorvald Krohn-Hansen, Trondhjems Gullsmedkunst, 1550-1850, (Oslo: Universitetsforlaget, 1963), pp. 185 & 201-202.

[mld]

Thank you for the summation. I appreciate your help.

And a big thanks to all who provided information or thoughts.

Now we just have to figure out why this locket became known in the family as the Swedish locket if it was made in Norway. My Norwegian great grandmother may have given it to her daughter (my grandmother) who married a Swedish immigrant living in Montana.