german birth cup - 1706, request for help to identify maker

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german birth cup - 1706, request for help to identify maker

Postby suomoo » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:39 pm

Hello,

I'm new on this forum and I would like to say hello to everyone on this site.
I'm interested in antique silver and collect it. Sometimes I come accross an item which turns out to be a bit of a puzzle.

I have a small solid silver antique cup with date of 1706 (birth cup, likely German) but I cannot find its hallmarks. I have searched in all my books but ..not an exact match. Could anyone help me identyfing the town and maker of the cup ? Many thanks in advance

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Re: german birth cup - 1706, request for help to identify ma

Postby Theoderich » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:35 pm

Beautifully :-)
hello and welcome to this forum

Do you know what this cup is written?

>>Anno 1706 dem 16. Januar ist gebohren Sebastian Schlayperiz sein Gevatterin Fr. Susanna Cathearina Burg von Ebertz
G:G:G<<

on the 1.16.1706 Sebastian Schlayperitz was born - from his Mother Ms. Susanna Catharina Burg (castle) of Ebertz.

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Re: german birth cup - 1706, request for help to identify ma

Postby Theoderich » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:12 am

Sorry Gevatterin = godmother
it is from godmother to godson

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>>Anno 1706 dem 16. Januar ist gebohren Sebastian Schlayperiz sein Gevatterin Fr. Susanna Cathearina Burg von Ebertz
G:G:G<<

on the 1.16.1706 Sebastian Schlayperitz was born - his godmother Ms. Susanna Catharina Burg (castle) of Ebertz.

G:G:G = God give grace

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Postby suomoo » Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:55 pm

Hello Theoderich,

My German is reasonable but my interpretation was not quit correct. Many thanks for giving the correct text and translation.

kind regards

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Postby Theoderich » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:55 am

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This was a tip from Solpar.

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Postby Solpar » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:15 am

Origin Lindau, makers mark "AIR", probably family Rad

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Postby stecci » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:46 am

Hello Suomoo

For your cup the following information:

The name really means "Schlapperiz" in today's spelling Schlapperizi. This family are citizens of St. Gallen. They had previously owned in Lindau.

The maker's mark "AIR" is probably the Lindauer goldsmith "Rüel. It was about 1645 in Lindau master.
The goldsmiths Rad (Ulrich 1480 to 1526, and Christopher I mentioned from 1628 to 1697) do not both come to the question.

Gruss

Stećci


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