Unknown maker on Elbing Ladle

[jackk]

Can anyone help me identify this maker's mark on this Elbing ladle?
Thanks!
Jack

[blakstone]

Carl Wilhelm Pröll, citizen in Elbing 28 Aug 1801. He assumed the workshop of his father Johann Gottlieb Pröll (Master 1777, died 1825) in 1811. He was working until at least 1818 and possibly as late as 1838.

Hope this helps!

[Theoderich]

looks a little different to this mark

[jackk]

Thank you again. Is this an undocumented mark for him? Here is another one that I was able to find that is attributed to this maker.

[blakstone]

Yes, this is an undocumented mark. Well, let's say unpublished, because I have documented it - in a crystal-clear strike - on a spoon dated 1824. The initials are unquestionably CW/P, and there simply is no other possible maker in Elbing at the time with those initials, not even in the large and prolific Pröll family.

Ref:
E. V. Czihak, Edelschmiedekunst früherer zeiten in Preussen, (Leipzig: Hiersemann, 1903), v. II, p. 162, maker #73
M. Gradowski & A. Kasprak-Miler, Złotnicy na Ziemiach Północnej Polski, (Warsaw: Wydawnictwo DiG, 2002), v. I, p. 51, maker #E98

[jackk]

Thanks Blackstone! I did a little more digging. There was a Elbing silver beaker at auction in Warsaw in 2008 - attributed to Carl Wilhelm Pröll and hallmarked with CW/P in a heart shaped cartouche. I don't have an image of the mark, but the picture of the beaker was still available.

[Theoderich]

Yes, this is an undocumented mark. Well, let's say unpublished, because I have documented it - in a crystal-clear strike - on a spoon dated 1824. The initials are unquestionably CW/P, and there simply is no other possible maker in Elbing at the time with those initials, not even in the large and prolific Pröll family.

Ref:
E. V. Czihak, Edelschmiedekunst früherer zeiten in Preussen, (Leipzig: Hiersemann, 1903), v. II, p. 162, maker #73
M. Gradowski & A. Kasprak-Miler, Złotnicy na Ziemiach Północnej Polski, (Warsaw: Wydawnictwo DiG, 2002), v. I, p. 51, maker #E98

there is an other makersmark of CW Pröll
it is on a spoon about from 1810-20

[Theoderich]

Carl Wilhelm Proell

and his father
Johann Gottlieb Proell